Just 'Re-joined?' after THAT charity conversion debacle

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Re: Just 'Re-joined?' after THAT charity conversion debacle

Postby deliquium » 6 Jan 2017, 9:38am

gaz wrote:Welcome back Paul.

I also never went away.


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Re: Just 'Re-joined?' after THAT charity conversion debacle

Postby pedalsheep » 13 Jan 2017, 3:59pm

I decided to stick with them for the moment and see what happens. I was very surprised today to receive a large envelope containing a renewal for 'we are cycling UK' plus a rather nice certificate from ' The Council of Cyclists Touring Club' expressing appreciation for 10 years of membership (although I was also a member in the 70s and 80s) and featuring 2 Winged Wheel emblems!
Are they trying to convince me that I still belong to a club rather than just being a supporter of a charity or are the certificates just old stock? It is a rather fine certificate.
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Re: Just 'Re-joined?' after THAT charity conversion debacle

Postby gaz » 13 Jan 2017, 4:22pm

Are you sure it's a certificate, 10 years is supposed to be a Presidential Letter.

I expect this is one of those things that falls under the "Heritage" branding, at least until the old stock is used up :wink: .
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Re: Just 'Re-joined?' after THAT charity conversion debacle

Postby djnotts » 13 Jan 2017, 4:30pm

I was a member for a few years until "the nasty business of the charity conversion/coup....." but this very day have rejoined!

Simply that the Notts group has started Saturday "easy" rides and having had my free three tasters and hoping that I can probably just about keep up on most of the c.35 mile outings, I was sufficiently motivated to stump up the over-65s subs! I was never more than a peripheral member but I do find the "Cycling UK" thing sad.

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Re: Just 'Re-joined?' after THAT charity conversion debacle

Postby mjr » 13 Jan 2017, 6:30pm

djnotts wrote:Simply that the Notts group has started Saturday "easy" rides and having had my free three tasters and hoping that I can probably just about keep up on most of the c.35 mile outings, I was sufficiently motivated to stump up the over-65s subs!

Ah, so the "join else you can't ride on the public roads with us" blackmail policy does work sometimes.
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Re: Just 'Re-joined?' after THAT charity conversion debacle

Postby landsurfer » 13 Jan 2017, 6:32pm

mjr wrote:
djnotts wrote:Simply that the Notts group has started Saturday "easy" rides and having had my free three tasters and hoping that I can probably just about keep up on most of the c.35 mile outings, I was sufficiently motivated to stump up the over-65s subs!

Ah, so the "join else you can't ride on the public roads with us" blackmail policy does work sometimes.


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Re: Just 'Re-joined?' after THAT charity conversion debacle

Postby djnotts » 13 Jan 2017, 6:50pm

"Ah, so the "join else you can't ride on the public roads with us" blackmail policy does work sometimes."

Not how I view it at all. It's a "club" (for want of a better word!) and I can see no element of "blackmail" in a condition that requires me to pay my subs in order to enjoy a benefit of membership. (Pretty much like the EU really....)

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Re: Just 'Re-joined?' after THAT charity conversion debacle

Postby pedalsheep » 13 Jan 2017, 6:54pm

gaz wrote
Are you sure its a certificate

I suppose it is actually a presidential letter but it does look like a certificate with the writing superimposed over a large Winged Wheel and a smaller one top centre with 'Founded 1878' underneath it. Definitely heritage!
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Re: Just 'Re-joined?' after THAT charity conversion debacle

Postby Barred1 » 13 Jan 2017, 8:17pm

djnotts wrote:"Ah, so the "join else you can't ride on the public roads with us" blackmail policy does work sometimes."

Not how I view it at all. It's a "club" (for want of a better word!) and I can see no element of "blackmail" in a condition that requires me to pay my subs in order to enjoy a benefit of membership. (Pretty much like the EU really....)


I would agree that "blackmail" is a bit strong, but then that's often mjr's style - BUT it does seem a bit tough that you have to pay (quite a lot) for the only "benefit" that you want which is riding with some pals.

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Re: Just 'Re-joined?' after THAT charity conversion debacle

Postby nez dans le guidon » 14 Feb 2017, 5:13pm

I just gave up. I'm 'retired' but 7 months short of state pension and when the renewal came through at £43 I'm afraid it made me think it would be very charitable indeed of me to cough that up on the basis I agreed with the aims of the one time club.

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Re: Just 'Re-joined?' after THAT charity conversion debacle

Postby meic » 14 Feb 2017, 6:00pm

I "have" to rejoin. In order to ride with my friends on CTC club rides, to do the FNRTTC, and they are the cover organisation for events like the Cotswold weekend and New Forest Cycling Week.
Then it saves me £2 on each AUK entry fee.

Tandem Club membership gives me third party insurance but otherwise I would "need" that too.
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Re: Just 'Re-joined?' after THAT charity conversion debacle

Postby mjr » 14 Feb 2017, 6:16pm

meic wrote:I "have" to rejoin. In order to ride with my friends on CTC club rides, to do the FNRTTC, and they are the cover organisation for events like the Cotswold weekend and New Forest Cycling Week.

I don't know about the others, but FNRTTC now also welcomes LCC and BC members, so don't feel that one forces you: http://fridaynightridetothecoast.blogsp ... rance.html
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Re: Just 'Re-joined?' after THAT charity conversion debacle

Postby meic » 14 Feb 2017, 6:28pm

I am 250 miles from London and all local BC events have compulsory helmet rules.
So it remains a reason why I have to re-join CUK.
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Re: Just 'Re-joined?' after THAT charity conversion debacle

Postby mjr » 14 Feb 2017, 7:31pm

meic wrote:I am 250 miles from London and all local BC events have compulsory helmet rules.
So it remains a reason why I have to re-join CUK.

Your call. There is no distance limit on LCC and I suspect FNRTTC would also welcome members of LCC siblings as long as they hold LCC insurance (which is available for a £9.50 add-on to membership). I've not checked who your nearest cyclenation.org group is, though. Might not be one, but even then, you could start one ;-)
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Re: Just 'Re-joined?' after THAT charity conversion debacle

Postby PH » 14 Feb 2017, 8:53pm

nez dans le guidon wrote:I just gave up. I'm 'retired' but 7 months short of state pension and when the renewal came through at £43 I'm afraid it made me think it would be very charitable indeed of me to cough that up on the basis I agreed with the aims of the one time club.


There isn't a pensioners rate, there's a seniors one for those over 65 whether retired or not and one for anyone unwaged regardless of age.
Both are £28.50 a year or payable £2.38 a month.


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