CTC political campaigning

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Re: CTC political campaigning

Postby bluemootwo » 27 Nov 2015, 11:01pm

Fair enough - hope so!

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Re: CTC political campaigning

Postby irc » 1 Dec 2015, 9:34pm

jahs wrote:Regardless of one's opinion on the march or its aims, it troubles me that CTC has chosen to support such a political march. As the "national cycling charity" I believe it is core to CTC's purpose to remain an apolitical, "big tent" organisation.


I think that bird has flown.

The local press in Northumberland is reporting the appearance in the magistrates' court of the protestors who disrupted the Banks Mining Shotton facility - this was a fairly transparent attempt to have a go at Matt Ridley, in whose back yard the mine is located.

I was interested to see that one of those facing charges is Friends of the Earth campaigner Guy Shrubsole, a familiar name from Twitter.

Perhaps even more remarkable was the appearance of Roger Geffen. That's Roger Geffen MBE, to give him his full title - he was honoured for services to cycling it seems having been the campaigns director of CTC, the cycling charity, for many years.




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Re: CTC political campaigning

Postby Graham » 1 Dec 2015, 9:46pm

It is good to hear that Roger is still active in environmental campaigns.

I was well aware of his participation in the anti-M3-motorway protests at St Catherine's Hill some yonks ago ( before the internet ).

Heathrow Climate Camp attendee too ( to say the least ).

I'm too chicken for all that . . . . so no gongs for me.

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Re: CTC political campaigning

Postby bluemootwo » 1 Dec 2015, 9:57pm

If he is convicted, he has to resign.

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Re: CTC political campaigning

Postby Graham » 1 Dec 2015, 10:00pm

bluemootwo wrote:If he is convicted, he has to resign.

Convicted of what ?

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Re: CTC political campaigning

Postby bluemootwo » 1 Dec 2015, 10:26pm

According to that local press article : "a charge of entering the open-cast mine with the intention of obstructing or disrupting mining activity."

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Re: CTC political campaigning

Postby Graham » 2 Dec 2015, 7:35am

bluemootwo wrote:According to that local press article : "a charge of entering the open-cast mine with the intention of obstructing or disrupting mining activity."

Thanks for that info.
Roger continues to climb ever higher in my esteem. Give the man an even bigger gong AND a promotion.

At this rate I might even re-join CTC ! :shock:

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Re: CTC political campaigning

Postby gaz » 2 Dec 2015, 8:19pm

bluemootwo wrote:According to that local press article : "a charge of entering the open-cast mine with the intention of obstructing or disrupting mining activity."

I think they mean aggravated tresspass: Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 s.68 although I could be wrong.

bluemootwo wrote:If he is convicted, he has to resign.

Resign from what, not to mention why?
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Re: CTC political campaigning

Postby robgul » 2 Dec 2015, 10:12pm

gaz wrote:
bluemootwo wrote:According to that local press article : "a charge of entering the open-cast mine with the intention of obstructing or disrupting mining activity."

I think they mean aggravated tresspass: Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 s.68 although I could be wrong.

bluemootwo wrote:If he is convicted, he has to resign.

Resign from what, not to mention why?


There may be a clause in his employment contract* related to "criminal activity" and conviction that could get him fired without recourse . . . it's not unusual to find such a condition

Rob

* that's of course assuming that the CTC Human Remains people have issued a contract.
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Re: CTC political campaigning

Postby gaz » 2 Dec 2015, 10:35pm

Being dismissed is not resigning.
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Re: CTC political campaigning

Postby robgul » 3 Dec 2015, 7:32am

gaz wrote:Being dismissed is not resigning.


I wasn't suggesting that it was .... a resignation wouldn't be required.

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Re: CTC political campaigning

Postby AJ101 » 4 Dec 2015, 7:43pm

Would you want Caroline Lucas MP to resign if she'd been found guilty for her anti-fracking protest? I wouldn't.

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Re: CTC political campaigning

Postby bluemootwo » 5 Dec 2015, 9:30am

Law makers can't be law breakers - isn't that the rule?

I know we have an unwritten constitution, but that only works if everyone respects the conventions and expectations that have grown to fill its place.

Would Lucas really wait to be told to step down? I hope and expect not. She should step down, and make the most of it for her cause.

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Re: CTC political campaigning

Postby bluemootwo » 5 Dec 2015, 9:32am

And as for fracking? If we can use gas instead of oil or coal, and if we can use our own resources instead of depending on Russian and middle-eastern gas, then absolutely yes, fracking please. And yes, you can do it in my back yard.

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Re: CTC political campaigning

Postby Vorpal » 5 Dec 2015, 9:35am

bluemootwo wrote:Law makers can't be law breakers - isn't that the rule?

I know we have an unwritten constitution, but that only works if everyone respects the conventions and expectations that have grown to fill its place.

Would Lucas really wait to be told to step down? I hope and expect not. She should step down, and make the most of it for her cause.

If law makers always followed the rules, we wouldn't have a constitution.

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