big bike revival

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Re: big bike revival

Postby Tangled Metal » 20 Jul 2016, 4:50pm

I'm obviously not important enough to have even been informed of it. Not the right sort for them!?

Waste of money and there's nothing close enough to be worth the effort. Pass!!

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Re: big bike revival

Postby gaz » 20 Jul 2016, 7:42pm

Tangled Metal wrote:... Sorry but did anyone know about the English scheme last year? ...

2015 BBR thread: viewtopic.php?f=45&t=93251
Paulatic wrote:There'll be figures, surely, to back up the claim.

A few in the above thread, there were others published in Cycle at the time, more in the Annual Report 2014/15 p17-19 (pdf pages 19-21).
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Re: big bike revival

Postby Paulatic » 20 Jul 2016, 8:31pm

gaz wrote:2015 BBR thread: viewtopic.php?f=45&t=93251
Paulatic wrote:There'll be figures, surely, to back up the claim.

A few in the above thread, there were others published in Cycle at the time, more in the Annual Report 2014/15 p17-19 (pdf pages 19-21).


There's a lot of info to take in there. I've ploughed through some of it and become further dissatisfied with how CUK throw figures around.

Stated in the Annual Report there is a total of 45 affiliate groups formed or joined in Scotland. If I then do a search on the website http://www.cyclinguk.org/local-groups? for all affiliate groups within 200mls of Inverness it comes up with 7groups.

As for using a DfT webTAG kit to claim a six fold benefit from the pound who can argue with that. I'm sure it would baffle anyone.
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Re: big bike revival

Postby gaz » 20 Jul 2016, 8:46pm

Paulatic wrote:As for using a DfT webTAG kit to claim a six fold benefit from the pound who can argue with that. I'm sure it would baffle anyone.

Presumably it didn't baffle the DfT who provided the funding and may have required the use of that model to demonstrate the benefit. He who paid the piper must have liked the tune because it was funded in England again this year and Scotland wanted some too.
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Re: big bike revival

Postby Paulatic » 20 Jul 2016, 9:17pm

gaz wrote:Presumably it didn't baffle the DfT who provided the funding and may have required the use of that model to demonstrate the benefit. He who paid the piper must have liked the tune because it was funded in England again this year and Scotland wanted some too.


I should hope it didn't baffle the DfT as its their tool.

I always respect your ability to search and find. Have you found those 38 missing affiliated groups in Scotland yet?
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Re: big bike revival

Postby gaz » 20 Jul 2016, 10:55pm

Search for AG's within 200 miles of Inverness returns 80+ AGs: http://www.cyclinguk.org/local-groups?f ... 5D=IV1+1AX

Search for AG's within 100 miles of Glasgow returns 70+ AGs:

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http://www.cyclinguk.org/local-groups?page=3&field_group_type_value_many_to_one=AG&title=&circle_op=%3C&circle[value]=100&circle[min]=&circle[max]=&circle[unit]=miles&circle[location]=g64%202rh
(can't make that one work as an url).

I'm not checking when they all signed up :wink: .
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Re: big bike revival

Postby Philip Benstead » 20 Jul 2016, 11:35pm

Here is the list of non CTC Groups based upon Gaz search parameters. I think there may be some English one included.



Al-Meezan House
CTC Affiliated Group 113.43 miles
Alyth Hill Users Group
CTC Affiliated Group 64.09 miles
Angus Cycling Club
CTC Affiliated Group 81.77 miles
Arran Bike Club
CTC Affiliated Group 136.45 miles
Arria Wheelers
CTC Affiliated Group 106.27 miles
Assisted Cycling Events
CTC Affiliated Group 99.91 miles
Ayr Burners Cycling
CTC Affiliated Group 137.73 miles
Ayr Burners Youth Cycling
CTC Affiliated Group 144.11 miles
Barnardo's Carlisle Rural Sure Start Children's Centre
CTC Affiliated Group 177.07 miles
Belles on Bikes Aberdeenshire
CTC Affiliated Group 69.38 miles
Belles on Bikes Cumbernauld
CTC Affiliated Group 106.52 miles
Belles on Bikes Dumfries and Galloway
CTC Affiliated Group 151.48 miles
Belles on Bikes East Ayrshire
CTC Affiliated Group 126.36 miles
Belles on Bikes East Lothian
CTC Affiliated Group 121.53 miles
Belles on Bikes Edinburgh
CTC Affiliated Group 111.74 miles
Belles on Bikes Falkirk
CTC Affiliated Group 104.75 miles
Belles on Bikes Fife
CTC Affiliated Group 93.24 miles
Belles on Bikes Glasgow
CTC Affiliated Group 109.71 miles
Belles on Bikes Inverclyde
CTC Affiliated Group 107.99 miles
Belles on Bikes Inverness
CTC Affiliated Group 9.51 miles
Belles on Bikes Moray
CTC Affiliated Group 20.19 miles
Belles on Bikes NKS
CTC Affiliated Group 112.01 miles
Belles on Bikes Scottish Borders
CTC Affiliated Group 132.07 miles
Belles on Bikes South West Community Cycles
CTC Affiliated Group 114.82 miles
Belles on Bikes Stirling
CTC Affiliated Group 96.94 miles
Berwick Cyclists
CTC Affiliated Group 146.32 miles
Border City Wheelers
CTC Affiliated Group 184.05 miles
Braidwood Bike Park Group
CTC Affiliated Group 112.01 miles
Bridge Church Community Action Project
CTC Affiliated Group 125.08 miles
Carlisle Rural Sure Start Children's Project
CTC Affiliated Group 177.07 miles
CHYP Bike Club
CTC Affiliated Group 109.71 miles
Clermiston Primary Bike Club
CTC Affiliated Group 110.69 miles
ConocoPhillips Cycling Club
CTC Affiliated Group 78.47 miles
Coupar Angus Cycling Hub
CTC Affiliated Group 74.32 miles
Cramlington CC
CTC Affiliated Group 197.46 miles
Cycle Carlisle
CTC Affiliated Group 185.92 miles
Cycle Friendly Kingussie (Kcdc)
CTC Affiliated Group 28.03 miles
Cycling Dalgety Bay
CTC Affiliated Group 103.09 miles
Cycling Dumfries
CTC Affiliated Group 168.1 miles
Cycling Science
CTC Affiliated Group 150.83 miles
DHFarm
CTC Affiliated Group 62.95 miles
Dumfries Cycling Club
CTC Affiliated Group 169.95 miles
Dunbar Cycling Group
CTC Affiliated Group 121.36 miles
Dundee Bike Club
CTC Affiliated Group 83.09 miles
Dunfermline CC
CTC Affiliated Group 99.31 miles
East Sutherland Wheelers
CTC Affiliated Group 35.48 miles
Ecurie Neep Mountain Bike Club
CTC Affiliated Group 82.32 miles
Edinburgh RC
CTC Affiliated Group 116.88 miles
Ednan Cycling Club
CTC Affiliated Group 139.48 miles
Filles a Velo Cycling Club
CTC Affiliated Group 104.34 miles
Glasgow Bike Station
CTC Affiliated Group 111.54 miles
Glasgow Road Cycling Meetup
CTC Affiliated Group 6.43 miles
Gobike! Strathclyde Cycle Campaign
CTC Affiliated Group 111.42 miles
Grease Monkey Cycles
CTC Affiliated Group 113.04 miles
Kidical Mass Glasgow
CTC Affiliated Group 117.71 miles
Kings Moss Cycling Club
CTC Affiliated Group 198.67 miles
Mayfield and East Houses Youth 2000 (Y2k)
CTC Affiliated Group 118.87 miles
Moray Mountain Bike Club
CTC Affiliated Group 38.03 miles
Nhs Greater Glasgow
CTC Affiliated Group 112.08 miles
PortWilliam Cycling Club
CTC Affiliated Group 177.49 miles
Put Your West Foot Forward
CTC Affiliated Group 109.87 miles
Ride to the Sun
CTC Affiliated Group 110.79 miles
Rossie Young People's Trust
CTC Affiliated Group 84.36 miles
South West Community Cycles
CTC Affiliated Group 114.75 miles
Special Treats Trykers
CTC Affiliated Group 58.83 miles
Spokes - Edinburgh
CTC Affiliated Group 113.04 miles
St David's, Dalkeith - Cycle Club
CTC Affiliated Group 118.87 miles
Stirling Triathlon Club
CTC Affiliated Group 100.6 miles
Telugu Association of Scotland
CTC Affiliated Group 112.27 miles
Teviotdale Cycling
CTC Affiliated Group 158.19 miles
The Vat Pack
CTC Affiliated Group 103.09 miles
Tyne Valley Cycling Club
CTC Affiliated Group 196.15 miles
Unite Cycling Club
CTC Affiliated Group 197.29 miles
Unite Cycling Club
CTC Affiliated Group 197.29 miles
Upcycle
CTC Affiliated Group 111.68 miles
Urban Roots
CTC Affiliated Group 113.83 miles
West Coast Velo
CTC Affiliated Group 110.41 miles
Wick wheelers
CTC Affiliated Group 79.14 miles
Wild Wheels
CTC Affiliated Group 110.11 miles
Wooler Cycle Hub
CTC Affiliated Group 157.04 miles
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    Re: big bike revival

    Postby Paulatic » 21 Jul 2016, 9:17am

    Thanks
    Well done :D

    I realise my mistake. I assumed I'd need to tick all the activity options to get all the groups. Seems it's best not to choose any options.
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    Re: big bike revival

    Postby Ron » 22 Jul 2016, 12:46am

    PH wrote:Maybe the situation will look different in a week or two.

    .....or eight, according to this..... http://www.voluntarysectorgateway.org/2 ... e-revival/

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    Re: big bike revival

    Postby Paulatic » 22 Jul 2016, 8:20am

    At least there is no mention of summer in that article.
    Sept/Oct, yet ive seen the TV advert numerous times this week. Cartoon characters in T shirts and under a blazing sun. first snows can be In October!
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    Re: big bike revival

    Postby Ron » 27 Jul 2016, 1:15pm

    Reporting on the award of £450,000 from the Scottish Government for BBR in the latest edition of Cycle, PT reports the feedback from officials (following the name change) was simple, "We never really understood what you were all about,but we do now"
    It does bring into question the campaigning efforts of CTC/CUK in recent years :( .

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    Re: big bike revival

    Postby mjr » 27 Jul 2016, 2:21pm

    It would also be quite interesting to ask the officials what they think it's for now and whether it matches what members want.
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