Cycle touring is a sport !!

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Cycle touring is a sport !!

Postby Philip Benstead » 13 Oct 2016, 8:23pm

There has been much discussion as to the insertion of the word into the CTC constitution.

I accept words do change their meaning but I think the evidence below suggests < CYCLING TOURING IS A SPORT > , but a non-competitive one at that.

IMHO the word non-competitive should be insert into our constitution if possible.


sport spɔːt/
noun
noun: sport; plural noun: sports
1.
an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.
"team sports such as soccer and rugby"
synonyms:(competitive) game(s), physical recreation, physical activity, physical exercise;
pastime
"he takes part in a variety of sports" https://www.google.co.uk/search?newwind ... 66&bih=589


Etymology
The word "Sport" comes from the Old French desport meaning "leisure", with the oldest definition in English from around 1300 being "anything humans find amusing or entertaining".[9]

Other meanings include gambling and events staged for the purpose of gambling; hunting; and games and diversions, including ones that require exercise.[10] Roget's defines the noun sport as an "activity engaged in for relaxation and amusement" with synonyms including diversion and recreation.[11]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport#Etymology
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Re: Cycle touring is a sport !!

Postby gaz » 13 Oct 2016, 9:01pm

Philip Benstead wrote:... I think the evidence below suggests < CYCLING TOURING IS A SPORT > , but a non-competitive one at that. ...

If only someone could campaign to bring back the BCTC, we could return the competitive element to the sport of cycle touring :wink: .
There'll be tarmac over, the white cliffs of Dover ...

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Re: Cycle touring is a sport !!

Postby Philip Benstead » 14 Oct 2016, 10:27am

See the below ,it could suggest that cycle touring is a sport

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... SSIBLE.pdf
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Re: Cycle touring is a sport !!

Postby JohnW » 14 Oct 2016, 11:33am

gaz wrote:
Philip Benstead wrote:... I think the evidence below suggests < CYCLING TOURING IS A SPORT > , but a non-competitive one at that. ...

If only someone could campaign to bring back the BCTC, we could return the competitive element to the sport of cycle touring :wink: .


That's the late, lamented CTC Gaz - never to return. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: Anyway, it included map reading! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Cycle touring is a sport !!

Postby Philip Benstead » 17 Oct 2016, 4:04pm

You can’t not get away from the origins of word. I agree there is agree of drift in their meaning.

The words we appear to have some disagreement on give below , I give an edited meaning for each word with the full meaning below

Sport - something that is physical and is amusing or entertaining"

Compete - to strive in common, therefore a map reading speed judging or similar event could be called competitive.

Tour- to go on a journey

What is the conclusion, well in my opinion the CTC need a need new and better written article of Associations?
See my next submission.

sport
NOUN

1An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.
‘team sports such as soccer and rugby’
[mass noun] ‘I used to play a lot of sport’
‘a sports centre’
More example sentences Synonyms
1.1 British An occasion on which people compete in various athletic activities.
‘I won the 200 metres in the school sports’
1.2[mass noun], [usually with adjective]Success or pleasure derived from an activity such as hunting or fishing.
‘I have heard there is good sport to be had in Buttermere’
More example sentences
1.3dated [mass noun]Entertainment; fun.
‘it was considered great sport to catch him out’
More example sentencesSynonyms
1.4archaic A source of amusement or entertainment.
‘I do not wish to show myself the sport of a man like Wildeve’
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/sport

Etymology
The word "Sport" comes from the Old French desport meaning "leisure", with the oldest definition in English from around 1300 being "anything humans find amusing or entertaining".[9]
Other meanings include gambling and events staged for the purpose of gambling; hunting; and games and diversions, including ones that require exercise.[10] Roget's defines the noun sport as an "activity engaged in for relaxation and amusement" with synonyms including diversion and recreation.[11]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport

sport (n.)
early 15c., "pleasant pastime," shortening of disport "activity that offers amusement or relaxation; entertainment, fun" (c. 1300), also "a pastime or game; flirtation; pleasure taken in such activity" (late 14c.), from Anglo-French disport, Old French desport, deport "pleasure, enjoyment, delight; solace, consolation; favor, privilege," related to desporter, deporter "to divert, amuse, please, play" (see sport (v.)).

Original sense preserved in phrases such as in sport "in jest" (mid-15c.). Meaning "game involving physical exercise" first recorded 1520s. Sense of "stylish man" is from 1861, American English, probably because they lived by gambling and betting on races. Meaning "good fellow" is attested from 1881 (as in be a sport, 1913). Sport as a familiar form of address to a man is from 1935, Australian English. The sport of kings was originally (1660s) war-making. Other, lost senses of Middle English disport were "consolation, solace; a source of comfort."
sport (v.)
c. 1400, "to take pleasure, to amuse oneself," from Old French desporter, deporter "to divert, amuse, please, play" (see disport). Restricted sense of "amuse oneself by active exercise in open air or taking part in some game" is from late 15c. Meaning "to wear" is from 1778. Related: Sported; sporting.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?all ... arch=sport


competitive
[kuh m-pet-i-tiv]
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adjective
1.
of, pertaining to, involving, or decided by competition :
competitive sports; a competitive examination.
2.
well suited for competition; having a feature that makes for successfulcompetition :
a competitive price.
3.
having a strong desire to compete or to succeed.
4.
useful to a competitor; giving a competitor an advantage:
He was careful not to divulge competitive information about hisinvention.
Origin of competitiveExpand
Latin
1820-1830
1820-30; < Latin competīt (us) (past participle of competere; seecompetition ) + -ive
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competitively, adverb
competitiveness, noun
anticompetitive, adjective
anticompetitively, adverb
anticompetitiveness, noun
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compete (v.)
1610s, " to enter or be put in rivalry with," from Middle French compéter "be in rivalry with" (14c.), or directly from Late Latin competere "strive in common," in classical Latin "to come together, agree, to be qualified," later, "strive together," from com- "together" (see com-) + petere "to strive, seek, fall upon, rush at, attack" (see petition (n.)).

Rare 17c., revived from late 18c. in sense "to strive (alongside another) for the attainment of something" and regarded early 19c. in Britain as a Scottish or American word. Market sense is from 1840s (perhaps a back-formation from competition); athletics sense attested by 1857. Related: Competed; competing.




tour (v.)
1746, "make a tour, travel about," from tour (n.). Related: Toured; touring.

tour
[too r]
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noun
1.
a traveling around from place to place.
2.
a long journey including the visiting of a number of places in sequence,especially with an organized group led by a guide.
3.
a brief trip through a place, as a building or a site, in order to view orinspect it:
The visiting prime minister was given a tour of the chemical plant.
4.
a journey from town to town to fulfill engagements, as by a theatricalcompany or an entertainer:
to go on tour; a European concert tour.
5.
a period of duty at one place or in one job.
verb (used without object)
6.
to travel from place to place.
7.
to travel from town to town fulfilling engagements.
verb (used with object)
8.
to travel through (a place).
9.
to send or take (a theatrical company, its production, etc.) from townto town.
10.
to guide (someone) on a tour:
He toured us through the chateaus of the Loire Valley.
Origin of tourExpand
Middle English
Middle French
Latin
Greek
1250-1300
1250-1300; Middle English (noun) < Middle French < Latin tornus < Greektórnos tool for making a circle. See turn
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minitour, noun
untoured, adjective
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2. trip, expedition. 6, 8. visit.


tour (n.)
c. 1300, "a turn, a shift on duty," from Old French tor, tourn, tourn "a turn, trick, round, circuit, circumference," from torner, tourner "to turn" (see turn(v.)). Sense of "a continued ramble or excursion" is from 1640s. Tour de France as a bicycle race is recorded in English from 1916 (Tour de France Cycliste), distinguished from a motorcar race of the same name. The Grand Tour, a journey through France, Germany, Switzerland, and Italy formerly was the finishing touch in the education of a gentleman.
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Re: Cycle touring is a sport !!

Postby Philip Benstead » 17 Oct 2016, 4:07pm

Some of you have been discussing the objective of the CTC , given below are the part of version from 1997

MEMORANDUM OF ASSOCIATION of the CYCLISTS’ TOURING CLUB

1. The name of the Club is the "CYCLISTS’ TOURING CLUB".

2. The Registered office of the Club will be situated in England.

3. The objects for which the Club is established are:
(1) To promote, assist and protect the use of bicycles, tricycles and other similar vehicles on the public roads and public rights of way;
(2) To promote and safeguard the interests of riders of bicycles, tricycles and other similar vehicles (hereinafter referred to as "cyclists");
(3) To encourage cycling and cycle touring as a means of adventure, recreation, character training and other forms of education, to stimulate by all possible means interest and participation, and in particular the interest and participation ‘of young persons, in cycling, and to promote cycling competitions, rallies, rides and other events;

(4) To promote and increase appreciation of the countryside and places of public interest, to establish and protect access thereto by cycle and on foot, to preserve and improve amenities, to take appropriate action thereto in Parliament and in and before Government departments, local and other public authorities, bodies and officers, landowners, developers and others, and to establish and support, or aid in the establishment and support of, or join with or help any association, establishment or institution formed wholly or partially for such purposes as aforesaid or any of them;

(5) To educate in road usage, increase road safety and in particular the safety of cyclists, and to promote and assist in the promotion of any · plans, measures, schemes or proposals designed to that end;

(6) To provide legal assistance for the riders of bicycles, tricycles and other similar vehicles in the enforcement of their rights to use the public roads and public rights of way;

(7) To cater for the needs of cyclists by collecting and furnishing information for the planning and. conduct of cycling tours, publishing and supplying books, routes, guides, brochures, accommodation lists, maps, periodicals and newspapers, badges and emblems, by arranging for insurance and any necessary documentation, and to organise and conduct cycle tours both at home and overseas and make all appropriate arrangements for participants therein, and to promote and safeguard the interests of cyclists in all such ways as the conditions of the times may render desirable;
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