CUK recruiting Off-road access officer - Tech officer next?

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CUK recruiting Off-road access officer - Tech officer next?

Postby keithb » 8 Feb 2017, 12:32pm

I saw in cycleclips the other week that CTC are trying to recruit a new "off road access officer". This would appear to be a direct replacement of the role Ian Wharby (I think) undertook for CTC, and is certainly a position that existed previously, it makes me wonder if the powers that be are actually beginning to listen to the membership, at least in areas where public gains can be made.

Given I have not renewed my membership (last summer) with a lack of off-road campaigning being one of my reasons, it' starting to feel like the organisation is beginning to respond to the needs of cyclists. Now that total restructure seems to have bottomed out....

I wonder if there'e any consideration being given to a replacement "technical officer" post? I think this has massive value to the organisation to guide and speak authoritatively to MPs, regulators, legislators etc on the technical aspects of cycling (thinking of lighting regulations here for example).

I hope they do return to having a technical post, as it was one of the most valued by members and gave real technical weight to arguments for cycling.

Thoughts?

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Re: CUK recruiting Off-road access officer - Tech officer next?

Postby mjr » 8 Apr 2017, 10:35pm

How long do they have to leave it between telling someone they're redundant and recreating the post?
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Re: CUK recruiting Off-road access officer - Tech officer next?

Postby PH » 8 Apr 2017, 11:46pm

keithb wrote: I think this has massive value to the organisation to guide and speak authoritatively to MPs, regulators, legislators etc on the technical aspects of cycling (thinking of lighting regulations here for example).

I hope they do return to having a technical post, as it was one of the most valued by members and gave real technical weight to arguments for cycling.

Thoughts?

I couldn't agree more and it fell right in with the charity objectives so it still makes no sense to me why they made the role redundant.

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Postby PH » 8 Apr 2017, 11:49pm

mjr wrote:How long do they have to leave it between telling someone they're redundant and recreating the post?

Many years ago (15+) something similar happened to me, I was told that there was no minimum but I could claim it had been an unfair dismissal, though the limit for that was three months from the time I left. It may have changed...

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Re: CUK recruiting Off-road access officer - Tech officer next?

Postby Psamathe » 8 Apr 2017, 11:58pm

I don't know the law but on the few occasions we had to make redundancies we thought in terms of 2 years. Basically err to the side of caution and make sure you are genuinely making the position/function redundant and NOT the person. I'd guess the shorter the time, the stronger the case the person made redundant would have if pursuing the employer for unfair dismissal.

How long ago was the previous incumbent of this position made redundant ?

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Postby PH » 9 Apr 2017, 12:10am

Psamathe wrote:I'd guess the shorter the time, the stronger the case the person made redundant would have if pursuing the employer for unfair dismissal.Ian

Just checked and the time limit on instigating an unfair dismissal claim is still three months.

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Postby Psamathe » 9 Apr 2017, 12:19am

PH wrote:
Psamathe wrote:I'd guess the shorter the time, the stronger the case the person made redundant would have if pursuing the employer for unfair dismissal.Ian

Just checked and the time limit on instigating an unfair dismissal claim is still three months.

I guess our 2 years was just to make absolutely 110% sure it was the role we ending, that we were not reacting short term, that our remaining employees didn't start to wonder about us being a "hire & fire" outfit, that we didn't dismiss on a whim and then change our minds a few months later, etc.

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Postby PH » 9 Apr 2017, 12:27am

Psamathe wrote:
PH wrote:
Psamathe wrote:I'd guess the shorter the time, the stronger the case the person made redundant would have if pursuing the employer for unfair dismissal.Ian

Just checked and the time limit on instigating an unfair dismissal claim is still three months.

I guess our 2 years was just to make absolutely 110% sure it was the role we ending, that we were not reacting short term, that our remaining employees didn't start to wonder about us being a "hire & fire" outfit, that we didn't dismiss on a whim and then change our minds a few months later, etc.
Ian

Seems very reasonable, I was a bit surprised I had no claim when my role was given to someone else less than a year after it had been made redundant.

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Re: CUK recruiting Off-road access officer - Tech officer next?

Postby Cyril Haearn » 9 Apr 2017, 7:06am

How much will she earn, I mean how much will she be paid?
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