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Re: Cycle magazine not in plastic please.

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 9:22am
by brynpoeth
mjr wrote:
Tangled Metal wrote:
mjr wrote:Don't bin them. Put them in the larger supermarkets' plastic bag recycling bins.

So they can bin them?

Oh please not that old myth again!


I read the small print on food packing

Some can be recycled, some can not

I understand a lot of it is burnt

Re: Cycle magazine not in plastic please.

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 11:41am
by mjr
brynpoeth wrote:
mjr wrote:
Tangled Metal wrote:So they can bin them?

Oh please not that old myth again!


I read the small print on food packing

Some can be recycled, some can not

Indeed, but nearly all clear mailing wrappers are LDPE, although not all are stamped with the 4 in the plastics recycling triangle.

brynpoeth wrote:I understand a lot of it is burnt

Where do you understand that from? Do you mean the LDPE recycling or the residual (black bag) waste?

Re: Cycle magazine not in plastic please.

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 11:52am
by brynpoeth
In Germany a lot is burnt, what happens to paper for recycling depends on the market price, if money is to be made private firms get involved

What happens to non-recycleable stuff in the recycling bags?

A lot of plastic waste is exported to China, but this will soon be greatly reduced

What really happens to rubbish is rather mysterious but a couple of big tips near me have open days, maybe I will go along and ask some questions

Re: Cycle magazine not in plastic please.

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 11:55am
by Psamathe
mjr wrote:.....
Indeed, but nearly all clear mailing wrappers are LDPE, although not all are stamped with the 4 in the plastics recycling triangle.
.....

One of the challenges with recycling is how to actually recycle a lot of recyclable things. (My understanding) the clear magazine wrappers cannot be put in the recycling bins in my area so I'd have to find somewhere else to put them (and my local supermarket does not have special bins - not that I've seen but I'm still reusing plastic bags from before the charge scheme started - they last ages).

I think it's a significant problem for recycling and not something I have any answers to. In my area a selected range of common recyclables are all put in the "Green Bin" and the Council sorts them out (but they don't accept e.g. magazine plastic bags and they get a lot of non recyclables in those bins). My parents have to do loads of sorting into quite a few different bins meaning their Council recycles a far narrower range of materials and spends more collecting them (but less sorting them).

And then there are quite a few products I suspect many don't bother to recycle because "it takes a bit more trouble" - e.g. I have a box that gradually accumulates used batteries and every few years it gets taken to a supermarket.

But how many people know how to responsibly dispose of energy saver bulbs (CFL) which contain some nasties (admission: I don't know).

Ian

Re: Cycle magazine not in plastic please.

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 12:54pm
by mjr
Psamathe wrote:But how many people know how to responsibly dispose of energy saver bulbs (CFL) which contain some nasties (admission: I don't know).

There are collection boxes at Norfolk tips for light bulbs. The one at King's Lynn is usually half-way round by the small electrical items bin.

Re: Cycle magazine not in plastic please.

Posted: 6 Mar 2018, 5:53pm
by rjb
The copies in my local library are on the shelf. Available to all and definitely not in plastic. :D
Just discovered them by accident and as i didnt renew my membership it useful to know. :wink:

Re: Cycle magazine not in plastic please.

Posted: 6 Mar 2018, 7:49pm
by thirdcrank
We have a couple of subscriptions to magazines which come in plastic wrappers, neither with any guidance about the plastic used. I try to be conscientious to the point of being obsessive about getting the recycling right, but anything with my name and address on is rendered illegible then into the black (general waste) bin. I don't want anybody coming round checking to see if, as a Radio Times subscriber I have a dog licence. :wink:

IME, a lot of supermarket packaging has useless info like "Plastic: check local recycling" without explaining what sort of plastic it is to facilitate a check.

Matt, the front page cartoonist in the Daily Telegraph, recently celebrated thirty years in the job. When interviewed for the telly, he mentioned how he had become like his readership, giving the example about worrying over his bins. That's me :oops:

Re: Cycle magazine not in plastic please.

Posted: 6 Mar 2018, 9:37pm
by brynpoeth
In Germany all packaging has to be recyclable and is marked
Packaging, plastic, bags, tins go in a yellow bag or bin, paper & cardboard go in a blue bin, food waste goes in a compost bin, glass goes in a special container
Alles in Ordnung!

Re: Cycle magazine not in plastic please.

Posted: 12 Mar 2018, 10:27am
by roger
That sounds like one of those European ideas that could have been forced on us.

Re: Cycle magazine not in plastic please.

Posted: 12 Mar 2018, 3:27pm
by JohnW
roger wrote:That sounds like one of those European ideas that could have been forced on us.

It's our planet - it's our habitat - we all live here - and if the Europeans are ahead of us in learning about the destructive damage we're doing, and learning how to get our act together to attempt to stop it, then good for the Europeans and it's time that we learnt.

Re: Cycle magazine not in plastic please.

Posted: 12 Mar 2018, 4:48pm
by NUKe
personally I would prefer Cycling to have an online option, similar to Velovision. It would save the need to recycle Paper as well, those who want a paper version could still get one, but you would have the option of a PDF format would bring it into the 20th century.

Re: Cycle magazine not in plastic please.

Posted: 12 Mar 2018, 7:50pm
by JohnW
NUKe wrote:personally I would prefer Cycling to have an online option, similar to Velovision. It would save the need to recycle Paper as well, those who want a paper version could still get one, but you would have the option of a PDF format would bring it into the 20th century.


I understand the principle, and what I presume to be the ethical reasoning behind it, but I personally would still opt for the paper copy.

I think that a change back from polythene bag to paper envelope would be the right move.

Just my opinions.

Re: Cycle magazine not in plastic please.

Posted: 4 Apr 2018, 7:08pm
by gaz
Cycle will be delivered in recyclable plastic packaging* from the June/July issue: https://twitter.com/WeAreCyclingUK/stat ... 6236192769

*Whatever that means :wink: .

Re: Cycle magazine not in plastic please.

Posted: 4 Apr 2018, 10:06pm
by JohnW
gaz wrote:Cycle will be delivered in recyclable plastic packaging* from the June/July issue: https://twitter.com/WeAreCyclingUK/stat ... 6236192769

*Whatever that means :wink: .

...............yes, whatever - in my ignorance I didn't know that the current plazzie bag isn't recyclable - just a plain, simple polythene bag/envelope isn't it? - not recyclable? Are there any boffins out there who know the facts?

Re: Cycle magazine not in plastic please.

Posted: 5 Apr 2018, 12:25pm
by PH
I was pleased the latest edition of Arrivee, the Audax UK magazine, arrived in a paper envelope. It'll have a much smaller distribution than Cycle, but still to large for it to be someone doing it by hand.