Editorial in the current edition. Dec/Jan

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Editorial in the current edition. Dec/Jan

Postby Golflad » 4 Dec 2020, 1:17pm

I refer to Editor Dan Joyce and his latest editorial :- How dare you call my cycling nondescript? I am 76 years old and have ridden most of my life. Never been without a bicycle. Your reference to "Meat-and-potatoes"; "nondescript" I find most insulting. I do not need to circle on a calendar any of my rides:- they are all looked forward too and very much enjoyed. I take great pleasure in getting my bike out and cleaning it and of course riding it, be it Lands End - John O' Groats, Coast to Coast or my favourite short loop from home. You sir, should not belittle any bike ride.

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Re: Editorial in the current edition. Dec/Jan

Postby mjr » 4 Dec 2020, 3:44pm

Coo. What's he written now? Sounds like he may have got into a "meat and potatoes" sizing contest, which is probably ill advised unless he holds some World Record!
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Re: Editorial in the current edition. Dec/Jan

Postby PH » 4 Dec 2020, 3:51pm

You can read it for yourself. Then maybe explain why anyone would get upset about it
https://www.cyclinguk.org/publication/c ... nuary-2021

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Postby thirdcrank » 4 Dec 2020, 4:02pm

PH wrote:You can read it for yourself. Then maybe explain why anyone would get upset about it
https://www.cyclinguk.org/publication/c ... nuary-2021


Thanks for the link. I read right through the editorial to see if I could offer an explanation, but my eyes began to glaze over. IMO drivel, but it's a free country, with a free press.

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Postby mjr » 4 Dec 2020, 4:21pm

PH wrote:You can read it for yourself. Then maybe explain why anyone would get upset about it
https://www.cyclinguk.org/publication/c ... nuary-2021

Thanks for spotting that but urgh, issuu needs to die a firey death... it's a total accessibility disaster zone. I can only read it by picking full screen and zooming in. What the heck is wrong with PDFs? At least the reading tools work on them. Anyway...

I guess the offending bit is the attached penultimate and final paragraph, suggesting that cycling for exercise or fresh air is boring, something to endure rather than look forward to, possibly implying that it's only epic tours and challenge rides of the sorts advertised in Cycle or sold by CTC Touring that are notable. I think I might be upset by that if I was a member - but I already know from long experience that CUK isn't currently for everyday cyclists like me.
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Re: Editorial in the current edition. Dec/Jan

Postby Cyril Haearn » 5 Dec 2020, 7:14am

'What you (gazette editor) think of me is none of my business'

I agree with the OP, quite unnecessary. Has the editor upset others? Do some people think he is good?

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Re: Editorial in the current edition. Dec/Jan

Postby Jdsk » 5 Dec 2020, 10:00am

What do those who are offended think that nondescript means?

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Re: Editorial in the current edition. Dec/Jan

Postby Rod Goodfellow » 5 Dec 2020, 10:10am

Why bother unpacking the magazine? Just put it in the recycling without wasting time on it.

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Re: Editorial in the current edition. Dec/Jan

Postby geocycle » 5 Dec 2020, 10:29am

Rod Goodfellow wrote:Why bother unpacking the magazine? Just put it in the recycling without wasting time on it.


I enjoyed the article about Malham. I’m not very interested in the campaigns but it better reflects my cycling than most magazines.

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Re: Editorial in the current edition. Dec/Jan

Postby thirdcrank » 5 Dec 2020, 10:31am

Jdsk wrote:What do those who are offended think that nondescript means? ...


I'm not offended but this seems reasonable
ADJECTIVE

lacking distinctive or interesting features or characteristics.
"she lived in a nondescript suburban apartment block"

synonyms:

undistinguished · featureless · characterless · unremarkable · unexceptional · unmemorable · blending into the background · ordinary · commonplace · average · mediocre · run-of-the-mill · mundane · uninteresting · boring · uninspiring · dull · colourless · grey · anaemic · insipid · bland · bog-standard · common or garden


I can see the OP might take issue with Dan the Editor Man being judgmental about his taking pleasure from every bike ride.

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Re: Editorial in the current edition. Dec/Jan

Postby Jdsk » 5 Dec 2020, 10:32am

Thanks... but I wasn't quite asking that...

Perhaps I should have said: "What do those who are offended understand by nondescript?".

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Re: Editorial in the current edition. Dec/Jan

Postby PH » 5 Dec 2020, 10:45am

Rod Goodfellow wrote:Why bother unpacking the magazine? Just put it in the recycling without wasting time on it.

Well, don't bother? You don't have to have it, you can say so on the website.

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Re: Editorial in the current edition. Dec/Jan

Postby PH » 5 Dec 2020, 10:56am

thirdcrank wrote:I can see the OP might take issue with Dan the Editor Man being judgmental about his taking pleasure from every bike ride.

Well, it says "A way to spend the time that's pleasant" so I'm not sure that judgment is being made.
I think some people are looking to find fault, or too easily offended. The editorial was IMO just a little bland, even with the explanations I'm at a loss to understand why anyone got upset about it.
I take some pleasure in all my riding, I wouldn't do it otherwise, I even enjoy the mundane work stuff which if often most of my miles. But I'm jealous of anyone that gets the same pleasure from their local lanes as a big event or tour. I think the editorial sums that up fine... Anyway, sun's shining, I'm off for some meat and potato riding.

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Re: Editorial in the current edition. Dec/Jan

Postby tatanab » 5 Dec 2020, 5:16pm

Slightly differently, I was rather put out by a comment from our CEO whose cycling experience seems limited to London. She wrote that CUK is unique in being inclusive and open to all abilities - something like that, I'm not going to rummage in the recycling for the exact words. Unique my eye! I guess she knows nothing of other national clubs that meet those criteria -but of course they are clubs not charities so probably don't count.

By the way - she really should get some mudguards for commuting those mean London streets.

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Re: Editorial in the current edition. Dec/Jan

Postby geocycle » 5 Dec 2020, 5:45pm

Having reread the article I cannot understand why anyone could take offence. I do nondescript rides most days and enjoy them all, if I didn’t I’d not bother. However, it is the weekend rides or better still the multi day tours that stick in the memory.