Samuel D wrote:
They had a good run and did a fine job in their time.
+1 Really fond memories of Liggett & Sherwen when I first took up an interest in road cycling after being an MTB'er.
Samuel D wrote:
They had a good run and did a fine job in their time.
cycloret wrote:As mentioned earlier and from what I read on the web, apparently Liggett and Sherwen have been employed for years by NBC, not Ch4 or ITV who just took the feed of their commentary. So the program that we've watched in the UK didn't directly employ them and this was probably the reason why we never saw them in front of the camera as far as I can remember. With hindsight I remember the hand over would include the words "..we'll pick up the commentary ...". It seems Phil avoided saying much of a hello to the UK viewers because he had been already commentating to the USA audience and him saying hello would seem strange to them.
I gather that ITV weren't happy with these arrangement but I'm not sure what precipitated the decision to ditch them. A bonus occurred today when David Brailsford was invited into the commentary box to talk with Ned, something I suspect that couldn't have happened in the past. Phil and Paul are probably not in France any more than Murray Walker was for many foreign F1 Grand Prixs.
cycloret wrote:As mentioned earlier and from what I read on the web, apparently Liggett and Sherwen have been employed for years by NBC, not Ch4 or ITV who just took the feed of their commentary. So the program that we've watched in the UK didn't directly employ them and this was probably the reason why we never saw them in front of the camera as far as I can remember. With hindsight I remember the hand over would include the words "..we'll pick up the commentary ...". It seems Phil avoided saying much of a hello to the UK viewers because he had been already commentating to the USA audience and him saying hello would seem strange to them.
I gather that ITV weren't happy with these arrangement but I'm not sure what precipitated the decision to ditch them. A bonus occurred today when David Brailsford was invited into the commentary box to talk with Ned, something I suspect that couldn't have happened in the past. Phil and Paul are probably not in France any more than Murray Walker was for many foreign F1 Grand Prixs.
Whatever the reason, I've tried hard to "get into" the new ITV4 live-commentary team this week, but just keep switching off. The dull, adenoidal tone and commentary are just not entertaining at all. ITV4 need a rethink.
cycloret wrote:Just my preference but whilst I'm thinking Ned Boulting and David Millar are doing a reasonable job, I did prefer the Phil and Paul combination. I did look on the first day for a free web feed of their NBC TdeF coverage but drew a blank. On the plus side David Millar's experience of riding in the race peleton is more recent than Paul Sherwin's.
mark a. wrote:I'm watching the highlights only (and I'm a couple of days behind, too) and the Ned / Millar pairing is miles better for me. At no point has either of them said "years of age", so I'm happy.
PJ520 wrote:I paid money to get the Tour on NBC but those Orstroylyans "adenoidal drone" gets right up my shonker. I don't think I'll renew my subscription. Sherwin's commentary about the surround countryside was a joy, a big part of my reason for watching, the bloke they have now does a crap job of reading his handouts and his attempts at enunciating French are pathetic.