Goodbye then .. Chris Froome

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Re: Goodbye then .. Chris Froome

Postby The utility cyclist » 9 Mar 2018, 11:02pm

Have a read of poster doc_davo and their comment on the Road CC forum, he nails perfectly.
http://road.cc/content/news/238339-uci- ... llegations

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Re: Goodbye then .. Chris Froome

Postby Tiberius » 10 Mar 2018, 6:35am

The utility cyclist wrote:Have a read of poster doc_davo and their comment on the Road CC forum, he nails perfectly.
http://road.cc/content/news/238339-uci- ... llegations


He does indeed......Many thanks for posting that.

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Re: Goodbye then .. Chris Froome

Postby ianrobo » 14 Mar 2018, 8:39pm

Brucey wrote:skill games such as snooker, darts, golf etc have all had scandals with competitors using drugs like beta blockers. Amazingly I think pro golfers are now tested to see that they have not been taking steroids, too.

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Vijay Singh, check what happened there and Woods was involved with a doctor who the US want to extradite from Canada over selling these drugs to athletes.

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Re: Goodbye then .. Chris Froome

Postby landsurfer » 22 Mar 2018, 6:55pm

"It's just like that, it's just the way it is !" .. Run DMC...

"Recently, UCI president David Lappartient suggested that Team Sky had cheated without breaking the rules. As any lawyer will be quick to tell you, that means the rules are wrong.
Read more at http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/lates ... vRYXTJv.99"

I think Dr. Hutch has hit the nail on the head this time. ......again .... :roll: :mrgreen:
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Re: Goodbye then .. Chris Froome

Postby The utility cyclist » 22 Mar 2018, 7:14pm

landsurfer wrote:"It's just like that, it's just the way it is !" .. Run DMC...

"Recently, UCI president David Lappartient suggested that Team Sky had cheated without breaking the rules. As any lawyer will be quick to tell you, that means the rules are wrong.
Read more at http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/lates ... vRYXTJv.99"

I think Dr. Hutch has hit the nail on the head this time. ......again .... :roll: :mrgreen:

No he doesn't, on the one hand he says that you shouldn't do things you wouldn't in front of your mother and then upholds the decision by the commisaires not to DQ all the riders cheating (who were riding off the cobbles), something they wouldn't do in front of their mothers as it's unethical, or some BS like that :roll:
If you tell the riders that these are the rules and they will be enforced without any exceptions then people won't do it so blatently, some will chance their arm but if those in charge do as they should according to their rules then it will be the odd one or two.
This is just like the state of the roads and driving/cycling behaviour.

If a rule is not broken then it's not cheating, riding off the cobbles is cheating, there is a specific rule and just like the police when they defend some cheating (poor/dangerous driving) but go OTT when other actions that aren't breaking the rules are somehow deemed to be cheating on a random/massively subjective 'ethics' scale. What utter nonsense!

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Re: Goodbye then .. Chris Froome

Postby Paulatic » 31 Mar 2018, 7:36pm

PARIS (AFP) — The UCI has rejected Chris Froome‘s explanations as unfounded and referred his case to an anti-doping court, French daily Le Monde reported on Friday.

Team Sky and Froome had hoped the UCI would find there were no grounds to penalize the four-time Tour de France winner. Instead, the UCI has opened the door to disciplinary proceedings by sending the adverse doping test Froome returned at the Vuelta a España last season to a tribunal.


Read more at http://www.velonews.com/2018/03/news/uc ... dLrAe5b.99
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Re: Goodbye then .. Chris Froome

Postby The utility cyclist » 2 Apr 2018, 7:29am

Paulatic wrote:
PARIS (AFP) — The UCI has rejected Chris Froome‘s explanations as unfounded and referred his case to an anti-doping court, French daily Le Monde reported on Friday.

Team Sky and Froome had hoped the UCI would find there were no grounds to penalize the four-time Tour de France winner. Instead, the UCI has opened the door to disciplinary proceedings by sending the adverse doping test Froome returned at the Vuelta a España last season to a tribunal.


Read more at http://www.velonews.com/2018/03/news/uc ... dLrAe5b.99

So according to Froome's twiter response to this 'news' it's fake news/**** stirring/clickbait from a French newspaper, it's gone to a full UCI hearing according to LeMonde, nothing to do with CAS (yet). :roll:

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Re: Goodbye then .. Chris Froome

Postby Audax67 » 2 Apr 2018, 9:15am

Only the beginning of the original article is available, the rest being behind Le Monde's paywall, so I can't say what's what. The bit that's available simply complains that the procedure started by the UCI is taking so long. The general tone is sympathetic to Froome.
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Re: Goodbye then .. Chris Froome

Postby Paulatic » 2 Apr 2018, 9:16am

The utility cyclist wrote:
Paulatic wrote:
PARIS (AFP) — The UCI has rejected Chris Froome‘s explanations as unfounded and referred his case to an anti-doping court, French daily Le Monde reported on Friday.

Team Sky and Froome had hoped the UCI would find there were no grounds to penalize the four-time Tour de France winner. Instead, the UCI has opened the door to disciplinary proceedings by sending the adverse doping test Froome returned at the Vuelta a España last season to a tribunal.


Read more at http://www.velonews.com/2018/03/news/uc ... dLrAe5b.99

So according to Froome's twiter response to this 'news' it's fake news/**** stirring/clickbait from a French newspaper, it's gone to a full UCI hearing according to LeMonde, nothing to do with CAS (yet). :roll:


He deleted that tweet :?
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Re: Goodbye then .. Chris Froome

Postby ianrobo » 2 Apr 2018, 8:29pm

One day everyone will will accept Froome is a doper but until then we just have the sky lies and the defence by the sky fans who started watching cycling in 2011 and Lance who ?

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Re: Goodbye then .. Chris Froome

Postby cycleruk » 5 Apr 2018, 4:21pm

Why have we not heard anything about this in the GB press or have I missed it.
No mention in Cycling Weekly about UCI declaring anything ?
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Re: Goodbye then .. Chris Froome

Postby mjr » 5 Apr 2018, 5:00pm

cycleruk wrote:Why have we not heard anything about this in the GB press or have I missed it.
No mention in Cycling Weekly about UCI declaring anything ?

According to other forums, it's a purely procedural step, completely expected and not really news, while Velonews has misunderstood and overegged things.

For the benefit of those new fans who don't remember Lance, Velonews is an American publication that rubbished Landis and generally defended Lance, but their archive no longer goes back far enough to cover the early allegations. It's a good site with lots of news, but they blew their impartiality on doping long ago and it feels like they would love one of the British winners to be banned and stripped of wins, rather than merely accused of TUE gaming.
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