Giro d'Italia

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Re: Giro d'Italia

Postby mig » 25 May 2018, 4:03pm

:shock:

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Re: Giro d'Italia

Postby thirdcrank » 25 May 2018, 4:04pm

Panache.

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Re: Giro d'Italia

Postby djnotts » 25 May 2018, 4:09pm

thirdcrank wrote:Panache.



What is it and where do I buy it????

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Re: Giro d'Italia

Postby thirdcrank » 25 May 2018, 4:15pm

Certainly not the same thing as potash. :wink:

Without giving anything away about who did what, that was a ride to match some epics of earlier eras.

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Re: Giro d'Italia

Postby Paulatic » 25 May 2018, 4:17pm

Rob Hatch said
Inexplicable, unbelievable, realistically not possible’

A performance like that should certainly make you wonder.
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Re: Giro d'Italia

Postby geocycle » 25 May 2018, 5:17pm

Paulatic wrote:Rob Hatch said
Inexplicable, unbelievable, realistically not possible’

A performance like that should certainly make you wonder.


Indeed, but is it the sort of ride you'd expect from someone with something to hide? Extraordinary up and downhill.

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Re: Giro d'Italia

Postby Ray » 25 May 2018, 5:44pm

geocycle wrote:
Paulatic wrote:Rob Hatch said
Inexplicable, unbelievable, realistically not possible’

A performance like that should certainly make you wonder.


Indeed, but is it the sort of ride you'd expect from someone with something to hide? Extraordinary up and downhill.


Good point. When Floyd Landis made his now infamous long winning break in the TdF he apparently believed he could escape detection. I can't believe that Chris Froome would take a similar risk given the current climate and level of scrutiny.

Unfortunately I was limited to following his progress via text on the Cycling News website. Will be glued to the highlights at 7pm.

Oh - and you have to feel for poor Simon Yates.
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Re: Giro d'Italia

Postby TrevA » 25 May 2018, 8:39pm

That ride was the sort of thing that Hinault would have done, at his peak. Unbelievable, and yet it looked as though they planned it.

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Re: Giro d'Italia

Postby reohn2 » 25 May 2018, 9:03pm

TrevA wrote:That ride was the sort of thing that Hinault would have done, at his peak.

Yep I certainly was.
Brian Smith said it was the most incredible ride of the modern era,and I agree with him 100%,Froome was magnificent

Unbelievable, and yet it looked as though they planned it.

They did according to Brailsford.
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Re: Giro d'Italia

Postby Si » 25 May 2018, 9:03pm

It's pretty simple...
...if you are not doing well and then have a sudden upturn in form then its the doping
...if you are doing really well and suddenly lose form it'll be doen to doping
...if you can hold good form throughout a hard three week tour, then that'd be due to the doping
...basically, if you win anything then it's the doping, especially if there might be a touch of the johny foriegner about you.
...and if you can categorically prove it's not the doping then you must have an electric motor in your frame.

Such is the saddness of modern cycling......due to the many indescressions of the past you just can't help being suspicious no matter how much you want to believe in them.

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Re: Giro d'Italia

Postby reohn2 » 25 May 2018, 9:03pm

thirdcrank wrote:Panache.

Absolutely!
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Re: Giro d'Italia

Postby reohn2 » 25 May 2018, 9:06pm

Si wrote:It's pretty simple...
...if you are not doing well and then have a sudden upturn in form then its the doping
...if you are doing really well and suddenly lose form it'll be doen to doping
...if you can hold good form throughout a hard three week tour, then that'd be due to the doping
...basically, if you win anything then it's the doping, especially if there might be a touch of the johny foriegner about you.
...and if you can categorically prove it's not the doping then you must have an electric motor in your frame.

Such is the saddness of modern cycling......due to the many indescressions of the past you just can't help being suspicious no matter how much you want to believe in them.

Unfortunately that is sadly the legacy pro cycle racing has inherited.
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Re: Giro d'Italia

Postby djnotts » 25 May 2018, 9:35pm

reohn2 wrote:
TrevA wrote:That ride was the sort of thing that Hinault would have done, at his peak.

Yep I certainly was.
Brian Smith said it was the most incredible ride of the modern era,and I agree with him 100%,Froome was magnificent



While I somehow feel no real liking for Froome, it was indeed a ride the like of which is very rarely seen. A huge achievement. Respect.

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Re: Giro d'Italia

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 25 May 2018, 9:51pm

Hi,
Yes who would of thought :o
But Doumolin is only 40 seconds off.

Froomey conserves energy by not getting out of saddle on climbs that much.

Today 350 W @89 cadence, nothing to write home for.

I think I have it sused-
Froomey's style dropping his heels and cracking out a high cadence.
Effectively by dropping his heels on the whole rev (naturally your heel drops on the top of stroke and rises at the bottom) he is shortening his legs................but his thighs still do the same power...............short legs big power.............lean muscles.

The trick is being able to keep flatish feet without causing pain in the knees due to un-natural non ankling.
I would make a guess that all that limbering up on the turbo heels on the floor which you will see before the ride is a way of a-customising the tendons running up and down through the knee to working whilst bending knees.
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Re: Giro d'Italia

Postby Brucey » 25 May 2018, 10:23pm

after Yate's signs of vulnerability yesterday, someone, maybe everyone, was gonna come bashing the doors down today, if they could. Froome's ride was pretty epic, attacking from 50 miles out like that. Poor Yates. Mind you, he is young still; BITD a lot of DSs would have only just let him ride a grand tour at all, leave alone expect him to win it; three weeks is a long time.

On the highlights show they played out to Johnny Cash's 'Hurt'. I don't know if anyone else noticed but they left out an early verse of the song which goes

....The only thing that's real
The needle tears a hole
The old familiar sting
Try to kill it all away....


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