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Geraint Thomas taken to hospital

Postby rjb » 18 Jun 2019, 4:04pm

Geraint Thomas has crashed during the Tour de Suisse and been taken to hospital. More bad news for Ineos and there tour de france hopes. Watch this space. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/geraint ... de-suisse/ :(
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Postby mjr » 18 Jun 2019, 4:30pm

Wait and see, but possibly Bernal as Tour team leader?
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Re: Geraint Thomas taken to hospital

Postby Bonefishblues » 18 Jun 2019, 6:21pm

I'm told he was writing a get well card to Chris Froome at the time :wink:

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Re: Geraint Thomas taken to hospital

Postby Spinners » 18 Jun 2019, 6:33pm

Precautionary by the sound of it. I think he'll be OK.
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Re: Geraint Thomas taken to hospital

Postby Bonefishblues » 18 Jun 2019, 6:37pm

I expect so, he'll get himself the Le G Depart.

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Postby 1982john » 18 Jun 2019, 6:40pm

Are Ineos jinxed? They've had rotten luck since they took over - especially considering how little this happened under Sky

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Re: Geraint Thomas taken to hospital

Postby brynpoeth » 18 Jun 2019, 6:42pm

This thread could be merged with 'team ski is now team enos'
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Re: Geraint Thomas taken to hospital

Postby Spinners » 18 Jun 2019, 7:47pm

brynpoeth wrote:This thread could be merged with 'team ski is now team enos'


So, by that token, everything to do with Team Ineos should be moved. I don't think so.

GT taken to hospital is a perfectly valid stand-alone topic.
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Re: Geraint Thomas taken to hospital

Postby pjclinch » 19 Jun 2019, 7:51am

1982john wrote:Are Ineos jinxed? They've had rotten luck since they took over - especially considering how little this happened under Sky


If they are it's taken spreading, with Tom D out of the Giro and Vos out of the WToB...
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Re: Geraint Thomas taken to hospital

Postby TrevA » 19 Jun 2019, 5:27pm

1982john wrote:Are Ineos jinxed? They've had rotten luck since they took over - especially considering how little this happened under Sky


Wiggins collar bone break in the 2011 Tour when riding for Sky?

Crashes happen in racing and Sky were perhaps lucky not to have more bad luck, or perhaps it was due to their tactic of riding on the front for hours on end - all the crashes were behind them.

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Re: Geraint Thomas taken to hospital

Postby mjr » 19 Jun 2019, 6:13pm

TrevA wrote:
1982john wrote:Are Ineos jinxed? They've had rotten luck since they took over - especially considering how little this happened under Sky


Wiggins collar bone break in the 2011 Tour when riding for Sky?

Crashes happen in racing and Sky were perhaps lucky not to have more bad luck, or perhaps it was due to their tactic of riding on the front for hours on end - all the crashes were behind them.

Well, https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/g ... ar-AAD6FR1 has Thomas complaining that he hit an Astana rider who hit a road defect, so he wasn't on the front then!

TI's habit of riding on the front may have backfired this year: Puccio crashing in front of Dumoulin took Dumoulin out of the Giro after just 4 stages, making him likely to be the top challenger at the Tour if he recovers fully...
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Re: Geraint Thomas taken to hospital

Postby 1982john » 19 Jun 2019, 7:28pm

TrevA wrote:
1982john wrote:Are Ineos jinxed? They've had rotten luck since they took over - especially considering how little this happened under Sky


Wiggins collar bone break in the 2011 Tour when riding for Sky?

Crashes happen in racing and Sky were perhaps lucky not to have more bad luck, or perhaps it was due to their tactic of riding on the front for hours on end - all the crashes were behind them.


Just for clarity, I don't believe in superstition however they are getting some bad luck. At least with Wiggo is was actually during the race. At the moment they struggling to even get to the start line!

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Re: Geraint Thomas taken to hospital

Postby Brucey » 20 Jun 2019, 12:17am

FWIW very few pros go the full season without having a prang/close shave or two. Fortunately serious injuries are comparatively rare. I was reminded of this when I did an image search for "Froome accident" after his recent prang. There was no picture of the most recent crash but there were (literally) dozens of other ones, some of which I'd never seen before. Having very powerful brakes in the peloton is arguably highly counterproductive, for the same reasons as they don't bother with brakes on the track at all; it just causes worse pile-ups than ever.

You have to blame the race organisers as well; do they not reconnoitre the route? Aren't there notes on the race card? Can't there be marshals with whistles and flags where the road is in a bad state and its not been fixed prior to the race? FWIW in those parts of the race where the peloton is likely to be intact, in the Giro it always looks as if they have repaired the roads specially for the race. in Switzerland I've mostly found the roads to be pretty good but in the mountains it must be a never-ending battle. Anyway randomly bad roads with isolated holes in them don't improve the racing, and they certainly don't do much for some rider's careers....

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Re: Geraint Thomas taken to hospital

Postby mjr » 20 Jun 2019, 1:13am

Brucey wrote:You have to blame the race organisers as well; do they not reconnoitre the route? Aren't there notes on the race card?

Probably and probably, but who's to say the riders or team directors are reading the race book/cards?

Brucey wrote:Can't there be marshals with whistles and flags where the road is in a bad state and its not been fixed prior to the race?

That's not as easy or as big a safety improvement as you might think. Most races use rolling road closures which means that the in-road marshals and road-closing police spend the whole race overtaking all the riders, so more things to flag on the course means more motorbikes needing to overtake the riders. From memory, the Tour of Britain uses 24-30 police motorcycles and just under 20 in-road marshals, plus a number of static marshals around sensitive areas like the sprints. They spend all day overtaking the riders repeatedly and it only takes one to get it wrong once and you have another Peter Sagan incident :(

FWIW in those parts of the race where the peloton is likely to be intact, in the Giro it always looks as if they have repaired the roads specially for the race.

Often but not always. Stage 8 this year was criticised for its bad road surface on a descent: http://www.ciclismointernacional.com/gi ... 8-preview/
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Re: Geraint Thomas taken to hospital

Postby Postboxer » 26 Jun 2019, 6:00pm

Looking at the luck other grand tour contenders have, it's an achievement that Lance Armstrong finished 7 Tours de France in a row, maybe there was less pressure in the race due to the cheating, but it still only takes one little mistake. Chris Froome didn't last long in 2014 after a few crashes and is missing this year's injured, although he maybe isn't considered the most skilful rider. Thomas and Landa crashed out of the Giro etc etc. Not sure if Lance Armstrong was entering many other races, or doing as much training though.