2019 Tour de France: Spoilers!

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Re: 2019 Tour de France: Spoilers!

Postby Debs » 27 Jul 2019, 1:25am

I'm wondering what will happen, i mean in theory the sprinters could lead out a fast pace charge on the approach and when they get to the climb block across the road shoulder to shoulder, so all the climbers are stuck behind :lol:

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Re: 2019 Tour de France: Spoilers!

Postby tony_mm » 27 Jul 2019, 3:45am

Tomorrow at least 3 guys will definitely attack if they have the legs.

- Thomas needs only 28 seconds on Alaphilippe to gain 1 place in the GC. Totally doable on that 30 km final climb.

- Kruijswijk needs only 12 seconds on Thomas to gain 1 place in the GC. Totally doable on that 30 km final climb.

- Buchmann needs only 27 seconds on Kruijswijk to gain 1 place in the GC. Totally doable on that 30 km final climb.


Alaphilippe on the other side can't win anything against Bernal but has everything to loose. So the best tactic will be to stay as long as possible in the wheels of Thomas - or attack early if has the legs.

Landa/ Uran/ Quintana have to attack early - if they can get out of the Ineos train...
Valverde will help Landa to gain some time.

That stage is going to be interesting!

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Re: 2019 Tour de France: Spoilers!

Postby tony_mm » 27 Jul 2019, 3:48am

Oh and Bernal??

Well if the team is working for him then just let the Ineos train working as fast as possible in the climb and then chasing Alaphilippe, Kruijswijk and Buchman (and Thomas?) if they become dangerous - and only if the Ineos domestique can't close the gap ----- or make the TdF win with Panache and attack the first in the climb and win the stage.....

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2019 Tour de France: Spoilers!

Postby tony_mm » 27 Jul 2019, 7:19am

What a difference with Ineos...


https://youtu.be/VlkMLzJCYns

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Re: 2019 Tour de France: Spoilers!

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Re: 2019 Tour de France: Spoilers!

Postby 1982john » 27 Jul 2019, 10:08am

tony_mm wrote:What a difference with Ineos...


https://youtu.be/VlkMLzJCYns


difference in what way?

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Re: 2019 Tour de France: Spoilers!

Postby Debs » 27 Jul 2019, 11:27am

IMO...
If shortening the very important mountain Stage 20 down to 59.5km ( 37 miles ) on safety grounds then may as well run it as a time trial.

As a 37 mile road race it may work out far too aggressive from the start line, and the sheer bunched mass of aggression sustained on route could produce many crashes (?) ...hope i'm wrong :|

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Re: 2019 Tour de France: Spoilers!

Postby Marcus Aurelius » 27 Jul 2019, 12:56pm

Bernal is about to suffer a multitude of punctures and mechanicals.

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Re: 2019 Tour de France: Spoilers!

Postby Audax67 » 27 Jul 2019, 1:01pm

Anyone else noticed that yesterday's stage timings aren't available on letour.fr? Now explain to me how they reach the GC timings without.

Short answer: they can't. To give everyone a fair crack of the whip, yesterday's stage should either be run again, or completely annulled.
Have we got time for another cuppa?

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Re: 2019 Tour de France: Spoilers!

Postby Marcus Aurelius » 27 Jul 2019, 1:07pm

Audax67 wrote:Anyone else noticed that yesterday's stage timings aren't available on letour.fr? Now explain to me how they reach the GC timings without.

Short answer: they can't. To give everyone a fair crack of the whip, yesterday's stage should either be run again, or completely annulled.


They took the timings from the chip timings at the top of the Iseran. Today’s weather forecast is as bad as yesterday’s ( if not worse ) so re running the stage is off.

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Re: 2019 Tour de France: Spoilers!

Postby Audax67 » 27 Jul 2019, 1:54pm

Yeah, reckoned it was something like that. Chopping it off after the Iseran rather than before seems unfair, though.

Ah well. I don't see our guy getting his jumper back today, but he had a great run. Did you see the bit where he gave it away to a kiddie?
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Re: 2019 Tour de France: Spoilers!

Postby Marcus Aurelius » 27 Jul 2019, 2:03pm

Audax67 wrote:Yeah, reckoned it was something like that. Chopping it off after the Iseran rather than before seems unfair, though.

Ah well. I don't see our guy getting his jumper back today, but he had a great run. Did you see the bit where he gave it away to a kiddie?


A harsh commentator may say something like “I hope they checked the pockets for sharps” however, I would never say such a thing. To be fair, I think he’s been playing with straight dice, despite a bit of doubt ( from me certainly) early doors.

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Re: 2019 Tour de France: Spoilers!

Postby Marcus Aurelius » 27 Jul 2019, 2:05pm

Ooh, a bit of shenanigans from the intravenous team car there, I wonder what was just said to Bernal.

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Re: 2019 Tour de France: Spoilers!

Postby Audax67 » 27 Jul 2019, 2:39pm

Marcus Aurelius wrote:
Audax67 wrote:Yeah, reckoned it was something like that. Chopping it off after the Iseran rather than before seems unfair, though.

Ah well. I don't see our guy getting his jumper back today, but he had a great run. Did you see the bit where he gave it away to a kiddie?


A harsh commentator may say something like “I hope they checked the pockets for sharps” however, I would never say such a thing. To be fair, I think he’s been playing with straight dice, despite a bit of doubt ( from me certainly) early doors.


Me too. I was quite relieved when he started to look strained after the Tourmalet.
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Re: 2019 Tour de France: Spoilers!

Postby Marcus Aurelius » 27 Jul 2019, 6:56pm

It was lovely to see G conceding to Bernal at the end there. Just goes to prove what a top bloke he is.