TonyR wrote:Steady rider wrote:Shivaji Shiva
Charity Lawyer - Anthony Collins Solicitors
Yes you are right, the CTC bit was added in on purpose. I suppose readers of this site would want to know his connection with the CTC but the link provided does not include the CTC.
That's fine and if you wanted to do that transparently you would add a comment in the pre-amble to note that he is also the CTC Honorary Solicitor. What you don't do is change it so that it looks like it was part of the original article. That is just deliberately misleading and making it look like he wrote the article in his capacity with the CTC.
I hope these notes bring some clarity to my position.
If you would like to discuss my position, please contact me on 0794 980 16978 or 020 7630 0475
I have stated many time some on here should seek election to CTC Council, but they refuse on the grounds they are not qualified. But these same people continually criticize people would have been on council and know what is going on in their name. I am NOT knowing trying to mislead or misrepresent the facts. PLEASE DO NOT KEEP SAYING I AM
Note that the minutes do not reflect what was said at any CTC meeting. If some of you went to the Facebook “where the CTC Should be going “You would see that Hilary Reid is vocal critic of the poor quality of the minute and that she has submitted motion to the agm on the subject.
I was in favour of the CTC protect a relevant image to the potential new and current members. The name change that was suggested was The National Cycling Association but I had suggested but not record in the minutes that it would be a good idea that the letters CTC should be kept and have a strapline that told what we do.
As time moved on and with a change of CEO my view begin to change. With the CEO stated aim said directly to me face to face that he wishes to get rid of the entire council and get new smaller council. At that meeting I thought he had a similar meeting with all of the other councillor, I then realized that he only had meeting with a few. I then thought why me, two reason came to mind, the first he considers me important, I reject that out of hand, the second was I was trouble make or obstacle to his plan, well hole in one.
So I change my mind to any proposed name change because it was a slippery slope to the governance debate and taking control from CTC members.
The actual vote was taken when I was no longer on council.
Note the meaning of “agreeing in principal”, that is the meaning I took it to mean
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/in%20principle in principle
As a CTC council and as human being I reserve the right to change my mind.
In principle describes a basic idea. If your mother supports your travel plans in principle, she likes the idea of you getting out and seeing the world — though this could change when she sees the cost of the trip.
If you agree to something in principle, it means you're in favour of it based on what you know so far — the principle, or the idea, seems good to you. For example, while a lot of people support the idea of a new garbage dump in principle, few of them are happy to learn that it will be built near their homes.
PJB say "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?"
Changing Your Mind
What's the greatest barrier to changing one's mind?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/ha ... -your-mind
WHAT DID I VOTE FOR?
Council minutes can be found here
http://www.ctc.org.uk/sites/default/fil ... inutes.pdfMotion:
Agree in principle to a trading name change. Take the necessary action to register and protect the name of National Cycling Association. To set up a new working group to carry out further work to look at the implementation and wider brand issues as well as any name change. To bring a report back to Council in April for approval.
Proposed by: Barry Flood Seconded by: Philip Benstead
Vote of above Motion:
In favour = 10 Against = 3 Abstained = 2 Motion Carried
The report to Council should include the total cost of rebranding and transitional costs, with a fully worked up raft of initiatives.
Gwenda Owen made an observation being new to Council - saying that Council should make the decision, are we not losing sight of why we are doing this.
Jaki Lowe reiterated that she wouldn't want to start the work again as a huge amount of work has already taken place. Arthur Spurr commented that more clarity was needed.
ALSO NOTE THIS
IT SEEMS THAT DAVID COX CHANGE HIS MIND AS WELL.
David Cox said he was taken by comments from Gwenda Owen and Jaki Lowe and would feel uncomfortable without taking it to the Membership without more consensus.
Jaki Lowe confirmed the remit of the new group must be clear and agreed to draft the ‘Terms of Reference’ for the group. Attached are the draft remit word read out by Jaki at the meeting. Councillors wanting to be involved in the new group and those on the existing group and want to continue should email Jaki by Friday 24/1/14.