How should I vote in the AGM

Discussion of the re-branding of CTC as Cycling UK.
Psamathe
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Re: How should I vote in the AGM

Postby Psamathe » 11 May 2016, 4:29pm

JohnW wrote:...My fear is that any real cycling matters will be lost, and fall victim to cosyness and self engrandiosment, comfortable boardrooms and generous expenses, but we'll see. CUK has a job to do in campaigning Government, DfT, local Councils, all politicians, highway engineers and designers - and all those who make associated decisions, to begin to really consider cyclists as valid human beings, and to discover that our lives matter - it's not impossible, see Denmark, Germany, The Netherlands...

I have come to the (sad) opinion that cyclists would now be better served were CUK to wind-up at which point some other cycling organisation would undoubtedly take-up the role of campaigning for cyclists. And that other organisation would actually campaign for cyclists/cycling rather than just sitting there disagreeing with issues real everyday cyclists want addressed (e.g. passing clearance laws). CUK has become too wrapped-up in itself (re-branding, admin matters, governance matters, etc.) and seems to have stepped back from campaigning. I think them being here is now just getting in the way of others starting to do proper campaigning.

Ian

JohnW
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Re: How should I vote in the AGM

Postby JohnW » 11 May 2016, 6:07pm

Psamathe wrote:
JohnW wrote:...My fear is that any real cycling matters will be lost, and fall victim to cosyness and self engrandiosment, comfortable boardrooms and generous expenses, but we'll see. CUK has a job to do in campaigning Government, DfT, local Councils, all politicians, highway engineers and designers - and all those who make associated decisions, to begin to really consider cyclists as valid human beings, and to discover that our lives matter - it's not impossible, see Denmark, Germany, The Netherlands...

I have come to the (sad) opinion that cyclists would now be better served were CUK to wind-up at which point some other cycling organisation would undoubtedly take-up the role of campaigning for cyclists. And that other organisation would actually campaign for cyclists/cycling rather than just sitting there disagreeing with issues real everyday cyclists want addressed (e.g. passing clearance laws). CUK has become too wrapped-up in itself (re-branding, admin matters, governance matters, etc.) and seems to have stepped back from campaigning. I think them being here is now just getting in the way of others starting to do proper campaigning.

Ian


Yes, I have the same fears Ian, but personally I'm prepared to stick with CUK - I was a CTC member before many members were born - it's like a part of my life - I can't just turn my back so easily. Once all the changes, re-branding, re-ordering, re-governing, re-everything are over and "they who must have their own way" have got themselves sorted out they may return to thinking about cyclists. We all have our part to play locally of course and more opportunities may emerge, but the loss of motion 5 to "those (or maybe just he) who must have their own way" doesn't fill me with much hope.

Talking about "they who must have their own way" puts me in mind of one chap, in the employ of our local council, who'll be rubbing his tiny hands with glee at every discomfort that the CTC suffers - he mustn't win! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: All the more reason why we must stick at it.