Sleep or die early?

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Re: Sleep or die early?

Postby Brucey » 26 Sep 2017, 8:02am

IIRC there is evidence to show that we sleep less these days than 100 years ago. There is also evidence that sleeping too much is associated with poor health and poor longevity.

However cause and effect are difficult to separate from one another; doubtless you sleep more with certain illnesses.

But lack of sleep can wreck you; I went through a time of not sleeping well and it was awful. I recently changed to a different mattress and I think I've been sleeping better.

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Re: Sleep or die early?

Postby bigjim » 26 Sep 2017, 10:09am

I can sleep 8 or 9 hours at a stretch and can usually sleep anywhere. I'm 69 and take no medication. I have worked shifts in the past and the lack of sleep used to really affect me. I had to give up nights as I could not cope with the lack of sleep. I once worked nights driving lorries. I was dangerous. I was pulling into service areas for naps all the time. Soon packed that in.
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Re: Sleep or die early?

Postby Flinders » 26 Sep 2017, 10:17pm

According to the article, half the population are getting less than six hours' sleep a night. That looks pretty bad to me.
I know people who only need 5, but they are a tiny minority. Most people I know know they need at least 7 if not 8.

I need 8, and feel unwell if I get less than 7. And the other week when I was getting four or five at most, I felt lousy. I could do things, go out on the bike, go for a long walk- and I had to do both - but I'm certain it was affecting my 'output' and I couldn't do any serious work. I wonder if some people's inefficiency at work ( and I see a lot of it) is down to not enough sleep.

It interests me that the article mentions a raised heart rate after a bad night. After 2 terrible nights and one merely bad one, my heart rate was definitely higher than normal. Not by much, but it definitely was. Also, in my case, if my sleep is broken, even if the total isn't too bad, it can be as bad as having a lot less.

I've had one good night now and feel better, but still not up to par, so off for another 8+ hours. I find it takes a few days to catch up.

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Re: Sleep or die early?

Postby CyberKnight » 7 Oct 2017, 1:39pm

Looks like i will die next week then .
Shift worker and on nights i get maybe 5 if im lucky and 6-7on days, on monday i was awake over 24 hours as i had to take lad to hospital appointment then go to work all night
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Re: Sleep or die early?

Postby pete75 » 7 Oct 2017, 2:22pm

started reading the article but it sent me to sleep.

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Re: Sleep or die early?

Postby softlips » 7 Oct 2017, 8:15pm

Not read the article but I have seen lots of things presented regarding sleep at medical conferences recently. Lack of sleep and cardiac disease - although it's hard to prove it's causal and not casual. The incidence of Alzheimer's does seem to be markedly elevated in those who sleep less regardless of whether through choice or insomnia.

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Re: Sleep or die early?

Postby bigjim » 7 Oct 2017, 8:49pm

Didn't Thatcher boast about only needing 4 hours sleep a night?
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Re: Sleep or die early?

Postby De Sisti » 12 Oct 2017, 2:44pm

After yesterday evening's orchestra rehearsal my mind was buzzing with the pieces of music we played
and the technical playing I was trying to accomplish on the double bass. Despite being in bed by 10:15 pm
(rehearsal finished at 9:00 pm) I was still wide awake at 2:45 am (having dozed off and waking at 00:45 am).

Things on your mind can prevent sleep. However, I hope that lots of positive neural connections were being
made in my brain whilst I was thinking about the rehearsal that had taken place a few hours earlier. :idea:

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Re: Sleep or die early?

Postby Vorpal » 12 Oct 2017, 3:27pm

Studies look at populations. An individual may have a different response to sleep, or lack of it.

Just because one person only gets 5 hours of sleep per night, it's not necessarily a reason to worry. Most of us need more than that, but not all of us. On the other hand, there are folks who need 9 or 10 hours of sleep each night to avoid illness and other problems.

The amount of sleep that we need varies with age, as well as individuals.
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Re: Sleep or die early?

Postby nez dans le guidon » 12 Oct 2017, 5:54pm

Vorpal wrote:Studies look at populations. An individual may have a different response to sleep, or lack of it.

Just because one person only gets 5 hours of sleep per night, it's not necessarily a reason to worry. Most of us need more than that, but not all of us. On the other hand, there are folks who need 9 or 10 hours of sleep each night to avoid illness and other problems.

The amount of sleep that we need varies with age, as well as individuals.

I’ll say it varies with age. Recently sailed for 30 hours alone - the sort of thing I used to do all the time when I was young. It absolutely knackered me for days after!


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