Flu Jab - side effects?

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Postby softlips » 8 Oct 2019, 7:30pm

mercalia wrote:I dont bother with the free flu jab though I can get it for free. I dont seem to get the flu. in fact I can only remmember one bad time years ago in the summer maybe summer flu. I do get colds that last a few days. Seems like many people here having an adverse reaction.



Only had flu twice in my life as far as I remember. Had very bad colds but flu of course is very different. I have the jab due to work, everyone in healthcare should have it.

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Postby robgul » 8 Oct 2019, 9:16pm

robgul wrote:Hmm - I had a flu jab at about 1700 today - feel OK so far!

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Minimal pain/tenderness overnight around the area of the jab otherwise no problem.

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Postby Mick F » 9 Oct 2019, 8:52am

My issue is "time of year" and not the jab ........ sadly.
Feeling completely crap this morning. :cry:
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Postby brynpoeth » 9 Oct 2019, 9:02am

Mick F wrote:My issue is "time of year" and not the jab ........ sadly.
Feeling completely crap this morning. :cry:

Just accept it*, spend a lot of time in the bath or in bed
I am exhausted, WALKED 10 km in the rain yesterday :?
Cooking lentil soup to restore myself, got some sprouts too

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Postby Psamathe » 9 Oct 2019, 10:04am

mercalia wrote:I dont bother with the free flu jab though I can get it for free. I dont seem to get the flu. in fact I can only remmember one bad time years ago in the summer maybe summer flu. I do get colds that last a few days. Seems like many people here having an adverse reaction.

Likewise. Others have told me I am now eligible (old enough) but nobody contacted me, I don't remember ever having had flu in the past, but mainly I'm not a great fan of taking every going vaccination, pill, etc. I'll get vaccinations if I have to (e.g. rabies vaccination) but the more "optional ones" I'm less likely to go for.

Same will pills, get a headache and I don't reach for a box of pills but wait for it to go on it's own. When I have dental implants done (on my 3rd at the moment) they always do the "have you taken paracetamol and ibuprofen" before they start and I say "no, they don't help" and they appear with a box and insist.

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Postby mercalia » 9 Oct 2019, 10:15am

Psamathe wrote:
mercalia wrote:I dont bother with the free flu jab though I can get it for free. I dont seem to get the flu. in fact I can only remmember one bad time years ago in the summer maybe summer flu. I do get colds that last a few days. Seems like many people here having an adverse reaction.

Likewise. Others have told me I am now eligible (old enough) but nobody contacted me, I don't remember ever having had flu in the past, but mainly I'm not a great fan of taking every going vaccination, pill, etc. I'll get vaccinations if I have to (e.g. rabies vaccination) but the more "optional ones" I'm less likely to go for.

Same will pills, get a headache and I don't reach for a box of pills but wait for it to go on it's own. When I have dental implants done (on my 3rd at the moment) they always do the "have you taken paracetamol and ibuprofen" before they start and I say "no, they don't help" and they appear with a box and insist.

Ian



in my case it was the doctors who emailed me

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Re: Flu Jab - side effects?

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 9 Oct 2019, 11:10am

Hi,
On the vaccinations jabs et cetera, We are back to the old chestnut on whether you would vaccinate or not.
On vaccinations for children we are hovering just above 90%, I note that Cornwall is below the average.
Once you are below 90% epidemics breakout.
Health workers have the flu jab so they don't spread it around.

I will say the fact that you can come to the conclusion that you don't need it it's because the majority have taken it so you are less likely as an individual to meet someone with a bug
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Postby horizon » 9 Oct 2019, 11:18am

NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
On the vaccinations jabs et cetera, We are back to the old chestnut on whether you would vaccinate or not.


Hopefully not. This thread AIUI is about people telling us about their experience of the flu jab. I wouldn't have the jab but I wouldn't intrude on here to start a discussion as to whether you should or shouldn't.
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Postby Psamathe » 9 Oct 2019, 11:21am

NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
On the vaccinations jabs et cetera, We are back to the old chestnut on whether you would vaccinate or not.
On vaccinations for children we are hovering just above 90%, I note that Cornwall is below the average.
Once you are below 90% epidemics breakout.
Health workers have the flu jab so they don't spread it around.

I will say the fact that you can come to the conclusion that you don't need it it's because the majority have taken it so you are less likely as an individual to meet someone with a bug

Does the herd immunity apply to flu vaccinations given that even if everybody (general public) eligible took-up the vaccination it would be way below the herd immunity level. I thought flu vaccinations were more only to prevent the vulnerable from catching it (i.e. those for whom catching it would be dangerous).

I thought herd immunity levels varied according to the disease e.g. populations tend to quickly acquire zika herd immunity without any medical intervention but for (german) measles you need a 95% vaccination/immunity level (that is the level I've read is required).

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Re: Flu Jab - side effects?

Postby horizon » 9 Oct 2019, 8:39pm

A Guardian article here:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... vaccinated

Do read down the page. She writes:
In 2018 I developed flu complications that left me unable to breathe or move and on a ventilator for months. It’s left me with life-changing fatigue and pain

But then the crunch line is:
The year I developed flu complications, I had been vaccinated

Not sure how to interpret that.
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Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 9 Oct 2019, 11:13pm

Hi,
"The year I developed flu complications, I had been vaccinated. But while it didn’t protect me that time, it had done for more than 25 years previously. I’ve had the jab ever since I was a child, and it undoubtedly helped me stay well through many winters"
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Postby Tangled Metal » 10 Oct 2019, 8:48am

So you take flu vaccine at the start of cold and flu season. You get a mild flu or cold symptoms. It's a side effect of the jab!

Yeah right! There's a name for that logic failure but I can't remember it.

You probably had the bug in your system before the jab it just doesn't come out for a few days. You can't get a small amount of vaccine and somehow a bug in it multiplies fast enough to feel shoot in less than a day. Unless it's an exceptional bug that is.

Herd immunity for a small percentage who get the flu vaccine? No chance. No vac no chance of flu protection.

Any parent who does not vaccinate their kids is irresponsible to a serious degree. Compulsory vaccination now or no school, no childcare and seclusion from any kids groups imho. Off topic though so I'll stop there.

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Postby Psamathe » 10 Oct 2019, 9:35am

Tangled Metal wrote:......
Any parent who does not vaccinate their kids is irresponsible to a serious degree. Compulsory vaccination now or no school, no childcare and seclusion from any kids groups imho. Off topic though so I'll stop there.

I agree but also think that sometimes large sections of the population are overlooked. e.g. MMR jab: when I was young there was no MMR jab. In childhood I caught the R (German Measles then) probably didn't catch one of the M's but certainly didn't get the other M. I only had the MMR jab last year (initiated because I was travelling and it was a recommended vaccination). So for years I've inadvertently been in that pool of unvaccinated.

(Re: Off-topic: It's an informal chat, nobody is urgently seeking specific information and on topic would just be an endless sequence of "I had mine and no side effects" followed by "I had mine and felt lousy", etc., etc., etc. and the Dyson movement is an interesting aspect).

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Re: Flu Jab - side effects?

Postby Mick F » 10 Oct 2019, 10:03am

I had measles as a kid in the 50s as did everyone else. It was one of the standard questions you were asked when you joined the forces along with chicken pox etc.
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Postby Audax67 » 10 Oct 2019, 10:25am

I'd say that feeling a bit off-colour isn't a side-effect at all, but a direct result. Vaccination forces the body to fire up its countermeasures, so it's normal that you feel a bit grim; e.g. fever is a countermeasure. The vaccine doesn't contain dead or inactive viruses but just non-viable fragments of virus, so you can't catch anything from it; the symptoms should disappear in a day or two.
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