Carbohydrate-Insulin Model and obesity

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Vorpal wrote:The Carbohydrate-Insulin Model of Obesity: Beyond “Calories In, Calories Out”

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamain ... le/2686146

Diets of varying composition, apart from calorie content, have varying effects on hormones, metabolic pathways, gene expression, and the gut microbiome in ways that could potentially influence fat storage.
That’s a statement of the “bleedin’ obvious”.

Diets of various compositions, apart from calorie content, have various effects on hormones, metabolic pathways, ................. might not be so obvious. That’s what I think it means. :wink:
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There are all sorts of books about this, but a good website with little films to explain it is www.dietdoctor.com. Essentially the fat in your liver doesn't come from the fat you eat but 'de novo genesis' from sugars. Ditto fat deposited around other parts of your body. Even the more complex sugars can't be trusted not to bully you like this. If you want to lose weight eat the bacon, tomato, lettuce and mayo but throw away the bread. It's horrible but true.
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nez dans le guidon wrote:There are all sorts of books about this, but a good website with little films to explain it is http://www.dietdoctor.com. Essentially the fat in your liver doesn't come from the fat you eat but 'de novo genesis' from sugars. Ditto fat deposited around other parts of your body. Even the more complex sugars can't be trusted not to bully you like this. If you want to lose weight eat the bacon, tomato, lettuce and mayo but throw away the bread. It's horrible but true.


which is what I do .... and have done for the past 2 years and feel great for it. Even if you do not want to go low carb reduce sugars totally in everyday meal. Has anyone knows check out how many sugars they inject into them, look at the ingredients - Cane Starch = sugar for example.
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Interesting article about Tom Watson and his diabetes:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... he-disease

Key quote:

He believes that official dietary advice over recent years, to minimise fat intake, is misguided and that a drastic reduction in sugar intake is the single most effective way to tackle Britain’s obesity epidemic.
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People are so diverse, cutting fat works for some, cutting carbs works for others
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If I were to stop drinking beer, I would lose weight I have no doubt.
All that sugar ............ but it's basically the only sugar I consume in any quantity.
BMI is 24.1
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Would I stop drinking beer?
Not on your nellie! :D
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horizon wrote:Interesting article about Tom Watson and his diabetes:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... he-disease

Key quote:

He believes that official dietary advice over recent years, to minimise fat intake, is misguided and that a drastic reduction in sugar intake is the single most effective way to tackle Britain’s obesity epidemic.


many of us have been saying the same thing for a while now and obviously carbs as well sugar. As people say you have to make your own choice but it is time for govts (influenced by food business) to stop saying what is an 'healthy' meal
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Porridge is the solution, oats lower cholesterol and contain lots of fibre
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Porridge is the solution for what?
Throwing up?

Yuk! :shock:
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Mick F wrote:Porridge is the solution for what?
Throwing up?

Yuk! :shock:
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Praise the Lord for porridge
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They even put sugar the beef burgers, the meat art your McDonald's. Sugar in everything, that's how they get you hooked.
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Cours wrote:They even put sugar the beef burgers, the meat art your McDonald's. Sugar in everything, that's how they get you hooked.


To be fair the meat is not added sugar but the bun and sauce is
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