Sore Back on the hills...... why

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Sore Back on the hills...... why

Postby ndwgolf » 1 Feb 2019, 9:36am

Monday I did a 92 kilometers ride with 1800 feet of climes. I had a sore lower back from 40 to 60 kilometers (where Mose of the hills are) after the hills I was okay...... tired but okay but with sore knees as well
Wednesday I went for a bike fitting and they made a few adjustments to my Road bike to get my angles correct
Today I did the same ride, back was killing me again from 40 to 60 kilometers, but today my knees were fine........ we also did the ride slower today by 1kph
What’s with the lower back pain on hills?.
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Re: Sore Back on the hills...... why

Postby ndwgolf » 1 Feb 2019, 9:38am

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Re: Sore Back on the hills...... why

Postby ndwgolf » 1 Feb 2019, 9:40am

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Re: Sore Back on the hills...... why

Postby Vorpal » 1 Feb 2019, 9:40am

On a slope your position will be slightly different. If it's the very lower back; just above the buttocks, you are probably putting pressure on your sciatic nerve.

You might be able to resolve it just by shifting your weight forward a little. But if it were me, I would go back to the place where I got the fitting and explain the problem.
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Re: Sore Back on the hills...... why

Postby Vorpal » 1 Feb 2019, 9:43am

ndwgolf wrote:Mods how do I get rid of that stupid signature .......something about a phone???


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Re: Sore Back on the hills...... why

Postby ndwgolf » 1 Feb 2019, 9:50am

Vorpal wrote:
ndwgolf wrote:Mods how do I get rid of that stupid signature .......something about a phone???


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Re: Sore Back on the hills...... why

Postby Vorpal » 1 Feb 2019, 9:53am

Vorpal wrote:On a slope your position will be slightly different. If it's the very lower back; just above the buttocks, you are probably putting pressure on your sciatic nerve.

You might be able to resolve it just by shifting your weight forward a little. But if it were me, I would go back to the place where I got the fitting and explain the problem.

Had another thought.... this could be the result of having the saddle a little too high or too low. IMO too high is more likely than too low.
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Re: Sore Back on the hills...... why

Postby ndwgolf » 1 Feb 2019, 9:55am

Vorpal wrote:
Vorpal wrote:On a slope your position will be slightly different. If it's the very lower back; just above the buttocks, you are probably putting pressure on your sciatic nerve.

You might be able to resolve it just by shifting your weight forward a little. But if it were me, I would go back to the place where I got the fitting and explain the problem.

Had another thought.... this could be the result of having the saddle a little too high or too low. IMO too high is more likely than too low.

We lowered it on Wednesday 15mm if I remember rightly ........on the flats it’s no problem

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Re: Sore Back on the hills...... why

Postby reohn2 » 1 Feb 2019, 10:16am

Any one of or a combination of:-
The bike:- Saddle height or fore and aft position,cleat position,handlebar too low,too stretched out,overgeared.

You:- lack of flexibility,lack of core strength,pushing yourself beyond your limits for fitness level.
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Re: Sore Back on the hills...... why

Postby ndwgolf » 1 Feb 2019, 10:21am

I forgot to mention that the guy that fitted me for my bike told me to increase my cadance to a minimum of 90 but preferably 100 plus. I can manage 80 but anything-more than that and it just doesn’t feel natural. ........... normally my cadance is around 70

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Re: Sore Back on the hills...... why

Postby ndwgolf » 1 Feb 2019, 10:22am

ndwgolf wrote:I forgot to mention that the guy that fitted me for my bike told me to increase my cadance to a minimum of 90 but preferably 100 plus. I can manage 80 but anything-more than that and it just doesn’t feel natural. ........... normally my cadance is around 70

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Re: Sore Back on the hills...... why

Postby reohn2 » 1 Feb 2019, 10:25am

ndwgolf wrote:I forgot to mention that the guy that fitted me for my bike told me to increase my cadance to a minimum of 90 but preferably 100 plus. I can manage 80 but anything-more than that and it just doesn’t feel natural. ........... normally my cadance is around 70

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Which will be a LOT less when climbing,which in turn puts considerable strain on the lower back,learning to spin and lowering the gearing for the hills will alleviate the back strain.
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Re: Sore Back on the hills...... why

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 1 Feb 2019, 10:30am

Hi,
Cadence is directly link to foot speed.
You’re quite tall so probably longlegs, your crank length will limit your comfortable cadence.
I would only recommend high cadence like that if you wanted maximum power up at all times.
Then that’s If you’re Fit enough to maintain it.
You’re slow comfortable cadence is a bit of a giveaway.
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Re: Sore Back on the hills...... why

Postby Paulatic » 1 Feb 2019, 10:32am

ndwgolf wrote:I forgot to mention that the guy that fitted me for my bike told me to increase my cadance to a minimum of 90 but preferably 100 plus. I can manage 80 but anything-more than that and it just doesn’t feel natural. ........... normally my cadance is around 70

Neil


The question you’ve to ask yourself is Do you want to be a super fit/ fast cyclist and compete with the best of them or do you want to ride a bike comfortably and enjoyably?
I’ll bet the guy who took your money was younger than you :lol:
Yes try and increase your cadence but don’t get hung up on specific numbers. Get comfy on the bike It sounds like the drop in saddle height has helped the knees. Regarding back pain how’s your core strength and how much lower than the saddle are your bars?

I’ve just seen your average cadence is quite low.
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Re: Sore Back on the hills...... why

Postby ndwgolf » 1 Feb 2019, 10:39am

Core strength is quite good for supporting 6 Heineken’s and 3 bags of cheese and onion crisps........... Lol
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