Why being 'overweight' means you may live longer

Have you been diagnosed overweight or obese as an active cyclist, affecting your health? *SURVEY*

Poll ended at 8 Jun 2015, 6:38am

1. Have been diagnosed as such but my health is excellent.
3
50%
2. Have been diagnosed as such but my health is improving.
2
33%
3. Have been diagnosed as such and my health is deteriorating.
1
17%
4. Have been diagnosed as such and am unable to cycle anymore because of it.
0
No votes
5. Have recently (within last year) been hospitalised on account of it.
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 6

landsurfer
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So Axel, go somewhere else. My Gp is 6 miles from my house, I drive past 2 surgeries to get there because their good. My local main hospital is Rotherham,but I go to the Northern General in Sheffield for any physical, muscle or bone issues, to Chesterfield Royal for cardiac monitoring, I use our walk in centre in Rotherham town centre as a walk in a&e and the main hospital for Phyiso as required. The days of one size fits all is gone. Be prepared to travel for good health care, after all its free......technically.
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Well, silly me, and there was I thinking that the NHS has a monopoly on healthcare in this country. This is far from the only issue, I could recite a litany of similar incidents going back decades, numerous doctors and several hospitals. Why? Because they all use the same medical records, the records that I'm not allowed to see. The difference in attitude from paramedics and ambulance crew who haven't had prior sight of my records is obvious. What do you suggest I do, tell the ambulance crew which A&E they must take me to? I don't have a car, am I supposed to do a 30 mile bus ride every week just for an INR test, or repeat prescriptions? The hospital where I had my heart operation is a two hour train ride away, and that's the nearest. I tried enquiring about the possibility of having that operation at one of the London hospitals, but they didn't even reply.
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Axel if you want to see your medical records just ask. I've seen mine, Julie's seen hers. Ask. Maybe the NHS is not the problem. Take care, stay safe. David & Julie.
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The NHS are legally bound to issue sight of your medical records, all you need do is make an application to do so.
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axel_knutt wrote:Well, silly me, and there was I thinking that the NHS has a monopoly on healthcare in this country.

Sure, but you get a choice of which hospital to go to these days, at least in England. I don't go to the default choices for my area because the local one doesn't have the specialism I need, it's a PITA to get to the usual next choice without a car and the next one is easy by train and better-rated for my illness anyway. I think the system is called "Choose and Book".

As for dodgy records, I'd contact the Patient Advice and Liaison Service and see what they would suggest doing to correct them. I wouldn't take a lifetime of bad non-emergency care as an acceptable outcome.
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I've never seen a fat 100 year old.
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RogerThat wrote:Current research now suggests that the risk factor from being overweight (25-33% body fat composition) may be as low as 20-40% regarding mortality rates. And for some groups, the risk factor may be negligible. The risk factor of smoking for instance, increases to (for premature death) 250-300%. Binge drinking (consuming more than 6 units of alcohol in a 2hr period) risk factor is 125-180%. The difference in height (a recognised genetic disadvantage) in a 5'0" person and a six footer increases risk of heart attack by 64% for the smaller framed person. This is somewhat cancelled out by the increased risk of cancer for taller people.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style ... 58229.html



Weird. Why would a short person be more likely to have a heart attack? And you mix 'frame' with 'height', the two are not the same.
All these average things seem to me to be rather suspect. For example, I'm short, but only in the leg. If my legs were to scale, I'd be 6-8 inches taller. An according to the usual frame measurements, I have a heavy frame (I have huge joints for a 5' person, for example). So do I count as small or not?
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RogerThat last posted on the 7th May - then left in a huff, following a discussion with the moderators.

Regular visitors here will not be surprised.
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Graham wrote:RogerThat last posted on the 7th May - then left in a huff, following a discussion with the moderators.

Regular visitors here will not be surprised.
That's a shame. I must admit I didn't agree with everything he posted - nor, it seems, did others - but I hope it wasn't as a direct consequence of 'discussions' we may have had with him on forum, that he flounced. If he can be persuaded to give it another go - well and good!

Something like this happened to me, a few years ago, elsewhere - though in my case "discussion with the mods" would be a bit of a euphemism! Anyway, the net result has been that I've cut myself off from the most active and useful of the astronomy forums - and as a consequence my mojo for the hobby has suffered. Regrets? Of course I regret it. :(
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