Now thats what i call a Cassette !!

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Re: Now thats what i call a Cassette !!

Postby Mick F » 14 Sep 2018, 1:49pm

alexnharvey wrote:I'd like to see you ride a fixed gear down this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhBPFr3RRso
Very impressive and skilful and also strangely compulsive to watch.

I'd be far more impressed if he could ride back up.
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Re: Now thats what i call a Cassette !!

Postby 100%JR » 14 Sep 2018, 1:56pm

Most high end MTBs are fitted with 1X12 now...I believe Shimano have a 13speed in development.
Good old Marketing.
First it was 3x6,then 3x7,then 3x8,then 3x9,then 3x10...you always needed more gears...until you didn't and it was 2x10,then 1x10...then all of a sudden you need more again and it's 1x11 now 1x12 and soon to be 1x13 :roll:
Plus you get to pay more for less!
Glad my MTB days are over.

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Re: Now thats what i call a Cassette !!

Postby alexnharvey » 14 Sep 2018, 3:41pm

Mick F wrote:
alexnharvey wrote:I'd like to see you ride a fixed gear down this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhBPFr3RRso
Very impressive and skilful and also strangely compulsive to watch.

I'd be far more impressed if he could ride back up.


I think that would be a task for Danny MacAskill.

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Re: Now thats what i call a Cassette !!

Postby foxyrider » 14 Sep 2018, 7:00pm

brynpoeth wrote:Surely a single freewheel, maybe with a back-pedal brake, would be plenty for riding downhill

That of course, is how mtb riding started over in Marin County
Convention? what's that then?
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Re: Now thats what i call a Cassette !!

Postby brynpoeth » 14 Sep 2018, 7:15pm

ibbo68 wrote:Most high end MTBs are fitted with 1X12 now...I believe Shimano have a 13speed in development.
Good old Marketing.
First it was 3x6,then 3x7,then 3x8,then 3x9,then 3x10...you always needed more gears...until you didn't and it was 2x10,then 1x10...then all of a sudden you need more again and it's 1x11 now 1x12 and soon to be 1x13 :roll:
Plus you get to pay more for less!
Glad my MTB days are over.

When will it stop? Ever more expensive, specialised, fragile, I think the limit was crossed a while ago
Cycling - of course, but it is far better on a Gillott..alternative facts welcome

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Re: Now thats what i call a Cassette !!

Postby 100%JR » 14 Sep 2018, 10:19pm

brynpoeth wrote:
ibbo68 wrote:Most high end MTBs are fitted with 1X12 now...I believe Shimano have a 13speed in development.
Good old Marketing.
First it was 3x6,then 3x7,then 3x8,then 3x9,then 3x10...you always needed more gears...until you didn't and it was 2x10,then 1x10...then all of a sudden you need more again and it's 1x11 now 1x12 and soon to be 1x13 :roll:
Plus you get to pay more for less!
Glad my MTB days are over.

When will it stop? Ever more expensive, specialised, fragile, I think the limit was crossed a while ago

It’s just ridiculous now.
50tooth cog on the cassette!!?
Someone somewhere must be laughing their head off at actually getting away with it.

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Re: Now thats what i call a Cassette !!

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 14 Sep 2018, 10:38pm

Hi,
I was passed on a slope by a bike, racer with thumping large cassette like one posted with a single up front.
But I was on my skip trainer, faster down hill and the racer seem then to run out of puff on next slope.
I shouted that's a large one you got on the back and mumbled some words with fashion in there somewhere the reply was garbled but probably technical and it was lost in the traffic.

Not sure the riders of such can handle the gaps between gears...........maybe nobody told them.............
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Re: Now thats what i call a Cassette !!

Postby 100%JR » 14 Sep 2018, 11:42pm

When I rebuilt my last HT I tried 1x10.It was 10-speed anyway so I just needed an expander ring and N/W front ring.I opted for a 32t front and 11-36 cassette with 40t expander.After 2 rides in the Peak District I removed the expander ring and went with 11-36.
With the chain on the 40t my legs we’re spinning by about 4 revs to one wheel revolution!
I’d hate to try a 50t with a 30t front as fitted to the bikes now :roll:

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Re: Now thats what i call a Cassette !!

Postby Cugel » 15 Sep 2018, 8:56am

foxyrider wrote:
brynpoeth wrote:Surely a single freewheel, maybe with a back-pedal brake, would be plenty for riding downhill

That of course, is how mtb riding started over in Marin County


MTBing in fact began in 1959, in Marsden Quarry at South Shields. I know, as I saw the group of lads who had converted their Hercules bicycles into mudguardless things with a tiny chainwheel and big knobbly tyres, as they hurled themselves about the old quarry from which all the stone for the Tyne piers was got.

There were incidents and accidents. There were copycats who derived even more bizarre off-road chuggers from gawd-knows what odds & sods.

But they weren't Yanks, so they didn't go about boasting of their activities whilst pretending they had invented something no one else could, which would make them millions when sold to fashion victims here and there about the world.

Cugel, relating some alternative history.

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Postby Brucey » 15 Sep 2018, 12:14pm

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some bikepacking fashion victim MTBers, circa 1890

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Re: Now thats what i call a Cassette !!

Postby hercule » 15 Sep 2018, 1:42pm

mig wrote:
alexnharvey wrote:
mig wrote:61 x 11 fixed is a good downhill gear.

and cheaper too.


I'd like to see you ride a fixed gear down this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhBPFr3RRso


clearly a 60 x 11 course that one :wink:


The airborne bits might be a bit tricky on fixed...

Scary video, I found my increasingly sweaty palms clutching at non-existent handlebars watching that. It’s exactly like some of my nightmares!

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Re: Now thats what i call a Cassette !!

Postby foxyrider » 15 Sep 2018, 6:55pm

Cugel wrote:
foxyrider wrote:
brynpoeth wrote:Surely a single freewheel, maybe with a back-pedal brake, would be plenty for riding downhill

That of course, is how mtb riding started over in Marin County


MTBing in fact began in 1959, in Marsden Quarry at South Shields. I know, as I saw the group of lads who had converted their Hercules bicycles into mudguardless things with a tiny chainwheel and big knobbly tyres, as they hurled themselves about the old quarry from which all the stone for the Tyne piers was got.

There were incidents and accidents. There were copycats who derived even more bizarre off-road chuggers from gawd-knows what odds & sods.

But they weren't Yanks, so they didn't go about boasting of their activities whilst pretending they had invented something no one else could, which would make them millions when sold to fashion victims here and there about the world.

Cugel, relating some alternative history.


Read what I said, not what you think I said!

My gravel biking started circa 1978 which pre dates the current 'craze' by over thirty years. Of course we didn't have disc brakes or fancy gears just cheap and cheerful stuff on an old frame used for mixed tarmac and bridleway/byway riding - seem to recall the special gear ran to Michelin World Tour 27x1,125 tyres!
Convention? what's that then?
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Re: Now thats what i call a Cassette !!

Postby Mick F » 15 Sep 2018, 7:07pm

We were riding our threewheelers at the age of five or six up and down the paths and trails, and fields too.
1956/7/8 or so.

There's nothing new under the sun. :D
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Re: Now thats what i call a Cassette !!

Postby PH » 16 Sep 2018, 2:00pm

Mick F wrote:There's nothing new under the sun. :D

Does anyone under 50 ever say that?
Maybe nothing new but plenty of new variations. So people have always ridden over mountains or run 1X transmissions or gone bikepacking, and none of it is new, becoming mainstream can be something new as can doing it in a slightly different way. And if someone gets a kick from discovering something, where's the benefit to anyone in telling them it's been discovered a thousand times before?

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Re: Now thats what i call a Cassette !!

Postby Mick F » 16 Sep 2018, 2:07pm

You are correct of course.

It ain't what you do, it's the way that you do it.
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