531colin wrote: the difference is hardly staggering, is it? Its the same material (Cromo) and I bet the tube sizes are pretty similar (I could gauge a couple up, next time I'm in the shop). If theres a bit more lump to the Trucker, then it should be stiffer, so when you press the pedal down, the bike goes forward instead of flexing the frame?
I feel quite sorry for the poor old LHT, its the example that gets dragged out every time somebody thinks about moaning how their tourer doesn't ride like their Sunday best road bike. I bet it all started when some journalist reviewed it and couldn't find anything properly wrong with it.
On the other hand when people moan about how their smooth riding loaded tourer is a harsh ride unloaded they are often only talking about an overall rider/weight load difference of 20%. So a frame just a few % lighter or with one or two tubes slightly thinner or narrower might make the difference.
My LHT has far better loaded handling than the 531ST Galaxy it replaced. Comparing the frames side by side the main difference looked to be bigger diameter top tubes and down tubes. It wouldn't show much in the weight but was apparent when riding the bikes.
My everyday bike is a Spa Tourer so I'm not against tourers as do everything bikes but when Surly got their design so superbly right with the LHT I tend to give then the benefit of the doubt when the say the Crosscheck
frame is designed to supply a comfortable but lively ride.
But then I've not used one so it's all other people's opinions. I'd certainly be interested in the tubing differences between the LHT and Crosscheck.