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adding third bottle mount

Postby Sweep » 31 Aug 2016, 8:44pm

Forgive the basic question - i should know this.

But want to check all options.

What is involved in adding a third bottle mount (for a fuel bottle) on the underside of the triangle?

Have done this before, on an old steel frame, with a jubilee clip holding a suitable bottle cage.

Worked fine but on a nicer steel frame possibly looking for a more sophisticated approach.

Would it involve localised repainting of the frame after the job had been done?
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Re: adding third bottle mount

Postby gaz » 31 Aug 2016, 9:26pm

Rivnuts?

I doubt that I'd have the nerve myself especially on a lightweight frame.
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Re: adding third bottle mount

Postby Sweep » 31 Aug 2016, 9:48pm


Have you used them in that position tim?

Ie -on the underside of the bike?

I have read variable reviews in the past, and there are a small number in that halfords listing, though maybe one bad reviewer is as bad with a screwdriver as their wayward spelling.
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Re: adding third bottle mount

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 31 Aug 2016, 10:14pm

Hi,
These are what I use
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zefal-Gizmo-U ... SwNSxVMmO5
The ones I have used the top clips in the picture, never had the cable clips seen below, probably both included?

Put the water bottle underneath and tools in one of the top cages.
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Re: adding third bottle mount

Postby Sweep » 31 Aug 2016, 10:19pm

rmurphy195 wrote:Could try one of these https://www.decathlon.co.uk/300-univers ... 39445.html

Thanks for the suggestion.
Have used in the past on a long seatpost on a folder.
Worked very well and would recommend.
But have the idea/vague memory that when i looked at it in the past for my current need there was an issue with it interfering with cables.
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Re: adding third bottle mount

Postby Sweep » 1 Sep 2016, 7:29am

gaz wrote:https://www.velovitality.co.uk/products/velo-orange-water-bottle-cage-clamps

Oo, i do like the look of those gaz. Thanks. They look like a somewhat cooler version of my functionally successful jubilee clip bodge.
I used by the way, probably from a kind suggestion on here, a Wilkinsons classic (and cheap) bottle cage as it has the necessary extended "tabs".

Looks like an interesting shop as well. Ever been in it?
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Re: adding third bottle mount

Postby robgul » 1 Sep 2016, 8:16am

gaz wrote:Rivnuts?

I doubt that I'd have the nerve myself especially on a lightweight frame.


Yep - done that with Rivnuts on a early 80s Galaxy (which I no longer own but which is still touring happily with its new owner) - just take plenty of time with the positioning of the cage (with bottle in it) to ensure it's well clear of the front wheel and chainwheels.

... I also have a simple clamp on gadget from Halfords that does the same job on the Galaxy that I use - I usually have a plastic "tool bottle" in that when touring.

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Postby mjr » 1 Sep 2016, 9:28am

Sweep wrote:I used by the way, probably from a kind suggestion on here, a Wilkinsons classic (and cheap) bottle cage as it has the necessary extended "tabs".

Beware: my Wilkinson's classic steel cage split from its back plate (where the bolts go through). Mounted on the underside, that may first show as the bottle falling, rather than the rattle I noticed.
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Re: adding third bottle mount

Postby PT1029 » 1 Sep 2016, 10:14am

For me, it would be a Zefal Gizmo, neat and tidy. You need to get the one that matches your frame tube diameter.

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Re: adding third bottle mount

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 1 Sep 2016, 10:43am

Hi,
PT1029 wrote:For me, it would be a Zefal Gizmo, neat and tidy. You need to get the one that matches your frame tube diameter.

Think, well they been around for yonks, that they do in different sizes.

In stock- price is 15 years old.
Seems that they dropped the fixed band sizes and you use the cable tie if it don't fit..................................
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Re: adding third bottle mount

Postby Gattonero » 1 Sep 2016, 11:40am

A local framebuilder can add two bosses in most cases, on a steel frame is relatively a quick job and would involve repainting an area about 20cm of tubing.

If in need to carry lots of water, I would however think of an alternative solution, like a small frame bag on the top tube, so to keep an hydration bladder. This way only one water bottle is needed, to be refilled from the bladder. Foam (or spare clothing) can be used around the bladder to keep the water at cool temperature in the summer.
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Re: adding third bottle mount

Postby nirakaro » 1 Sep 2016, 1:57pm

I've done it a couple of times with Rivnuts. Cheap fast n easy. Needs careful marking out though!