SPA CYCLES 631 Tour Special

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Re: SPA CYCLES 631 Tour Special

Postby horizon » 17 Oct 2016, 12:13am

Now available as frame only at £250. Not sure if that includes head bearings:

http://www.spacycles.co.uk/m2b0s143p356 ... ur-Special

Takes 42 mm tyres with mudguards. 135 OLN.

I'm not sure that all the sizes are covered or whether 58 is a middling size (say 5' 10" - 6 foot) or whether it's on the large size leaving some gaps in the range.
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Re: SPA CYCLES 631 Tour Special

Postby mercalia » 17 Oct 2016, 10:30am

looks like a Dawes 1-Down copy to me re frame :lol:

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Re: SPA CYCLES 631 Tour Special

Postby reohn2 » 17 Oct 2016, 10:36am

mercalia wrote:looks like a Dawes 1-Down copy to me re frame :lol:

I thought it was 700c :?
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Re: SPA CYCLES 631 Tour Special

Postby mercalia » 17 Oct 2016, 11:25am

reohn2 wrote:
mercalia wrote:looks like a Dawes 1-Down copy to me re frame :lol:

I thought it was 700c :?


well what a 700c version of the 1-Down would look like :lol:

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Re: SPA CYCLES 631 Tour Special

Postby PH » 17 Oct 2016, 12:09pm

horizon wrote:Now available as frame only at £250. Not sure if that includes head bearings:


That is a great price, though I think you mean frameset, otherwise you'd be short of the forks :wink:

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Re: SPA CYCLES 631 Tour Special

Postby 531colin » 17 Oct 2016, 1:20pm

horizon wrote:..............I'm not sure that all the sizes are covered or whether 58 is a middling size (say 5' 10" - 6 foot) or whether it's on the large size leaving some gaps in the range.


This is by no means definitive information, and somebody who actually owns a Hewitt/Byercycles/etc bike might like to comment; but I think the full size range might have been........
17"..approx.43cm
19"..approx.48cm
21"..approx.53cm
23"..approx. 58cm
24"..approx. 61cm

23" with a sloping top tube could be considered "large" I should think

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Re: SPA CYCLES 631 Tour Special

Postby pete75 » 17 Oct 2016, 1:54pm

reohn2 wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:
reohn2 wrote:
I can't find that information on Spa's website.

TBH I think Spa's bikes could/perhaps are/if not should be making a big dent in a certain Somerset company's sales.

Same or similar for a goodly shed less money's my impression.

Well I didn't like saying so but seeing as you mention it.......
PS,Spa's could even be better.


Your PS is probably correct.
CJ wasn't overly impressed when he tested the Thorn Club Tour in Cycle. When he tested the Spa Tourer he was impressed enough to buy one himself.

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Re: SPA CYCLES 631 Tour Special

Postby reohn2 » 17 Oct 2016, 5:57pm

mercalia wrote:
reohn2 wrote:
mercalia wrote:looks like a Dawes 1-Down copy to me re frame :lol:

I thought it was 700c :?


well what a 700c version of the 1-Down would look like :lol:


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Re: SPA CYCLES 631 Tour Special

Postby blackbike » 17 Oct 2016, 8:56pm

PH wrote:
horizon wrote:Now available as frame only at £250. Not sure if that includes head bearings:


That is a great price, though I think you mean frameset, otherwise you'd be short of the forks :wink:


An audax 631 frame for £250.

That seems a great price to me.

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Re: SPA CYCLES 631 Tour Special

Postby Brucey » 17 Oct 2016, 10:36pm

Hewitt geometries (small, medium, large, extra-large, XXL) here

http://www.hewittcycles.co.uk/hewitt-cheviot-geometry

for Cheviot
seat tubes CT; 457 mm 483 mm 533mm 584 mm 610mm
eff seat tubes 520 mm 540 mm 575mm 610 mm 630mm
eff top tubes: 535 mm 545 mm 560mm 580 mm 596mm

and here

http://www.hewittcycles.co.uk/hewitt-chiltern-geometry
for 'Chiltern'
act seat tubes CT; 432 mm 483 mm 533mm 584 mm 610mm
eff seat tubes....; 520 mm 540 mm 575mm 610 mm 630mm
eff top tubes; 537 mm 542 mm 560mm 580 mm 598mm

the Chiltern has shorter chainstays (by about 30mm) and shorter front centres. The main triangles are not dissimilar; in both models the small and medium sizes have 74.5 and 74 degree seat angles respectively. The large and extra large sizes have 73 degree seat angles, and the XXL has 72 degrees.

Weirdly I take a 'large' in these frames, even though I'd take a 'medium' in lots of others. Spa appear not to have the 48cm 'medium' size in the 'audax special' and not this or the large in the 'tour special ' BTW.

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Re: SPA CYCLES 631 Tour Special

Postby 531colin » 17 Oct 2016, 11:36pm

I couldn't find that when I was googling, but I had some nonsense from Norton getting in the way.
Interestingly, the exact metric seat tube centre/top lengths I have are ....
431.8, 482.6, 533.4, 584.2, 609.6

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Re: SPA CYCLES 631 Tour Special

Postby blackbike » 18 Oct 2016, 5:39pm

I rang Spa today an asked about the frames. They said they are old stock from a man who is retiring and that while the frame geometry diagrams are not on the Spa site they could be found on the Hewitt site as they are the same frames.

Spa only have a few and won't be getting any more once they've sold out, which is a pity as they don't have one in my size.

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Re: SPA CYCLES 631 Tour Special

Postby horizon » 18 Oct 2016, 7:42pm

blackbike wrote:
Spa only have a few and won't be getting any more once they've sold out, which is a pity as they don't have one in my size.


Well, if they are the same frames and you like them, then you can still get one from Hewitt . . .

. . . for £425. :twisted:
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Re: SPA CYCLES 631 Tour Special

Postby PH » 18 Oct 2016, 7:50pm

blackbike wrote: could be found on the Hewitt site as they are the same frames.

If I was selling them for £250 I'd also be directing people to Hewitt's website where they're currently of offer for £382.50.
They really are a bargain, I'm almost tempted and have no use (Or space, or funds) for one.
EDIT - cross posted with Horizon, £382.50 for the touring frame, £425 for the Audax

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Re: SPA CYCLES 631 Tour Special

Postby Bonefishblues » 18 Oct 2016, 8:01pm

Miles too small, every-so-slightly too big, and massively too big are the sizes related to my requirements, I note.

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