Water Carrier

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Re: Water Carrier

Postby simonhill » 18 Jul 2017, 6:06pm

Just remembered my times in Oz.

I used to buy wine boxes (or casks as they call them) as I didn't want to drink a whole bottle each night or carry a half full one. The bladder inside a winebox is 2 or 3 litres and I used to tuck it underneath my pannier flap (Super Cs). Normally they are silver, but sometimes clear. Unfortunately the red wine clear ones look like blood bags when out of their box.

I'm not sure how much flushing would be needed to get rid of wine taste and filling via the tap would be slow. But hey, you get to drink the wine first. They also make usable pillows.

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Re: Water Carrier

Postby gregoryoftours » 18 Jul 2017, 10:34pm

Bike Buddy bottle holders are made of stainless steel and are absolutely bomb proof.

http://www.bikebuddy.co.uk/

I use the mk3 version on most trips with a 2l bottle. You could also sling one under the down tube in a mk1 version if you have the right tube diameter. Plus they're a very helpful small British company.

I recently overnight camped in the Peak district which involved some very rocky trail riding on my rigid mtb, it didn't shift at all with 2l bottle in place.
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Re: Water Carrier

Postby gregoryoftours » 18 Jul 2017, 10:36pm

I'd also second the Ortlieb water bladder. I had a platypus but a few trips ago it leaked at the neck joint and gave my tent a bath inside my nice waterproof ortleib duffel bag!

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Re: Water Carrier

Postby Tinnishill » 18 Jul 2017, 11:33pm

Resident of Scotland here.

Water falls out of the sky in great amounts; you don't have to travel far to find some, even when it hasn't rained for days. I use a simple cloth filter and chlorine dioxide tablets; the tablets treat one litre of water. A lot of one litre pop bottles (Irn Bru and the like) or "high-juice" diluting juice bottles will fit in a standard bottle cage. When they get a bit manky, bin it and buy another; they cost less than a quid and come with a free litre of juice.
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Re: Water Carrier

Postby Sweep » 19 Jul 2017, 2:23pm

axel_knutt wrote:I carry nearly 4 litres: three of these on the bike, and one of these in the pannier.


Have you found any problems with the first of those leaking?

Even when mounted in the bottle cage?

I had one and it definitely leaked - it used to leak when I shook it when mixing zero tabs in it.

And as I say leaked in the bottle cage. I well remember doing a ride and being mystified for a while by the reduced amount of water in the bottle. For I was sure that I hadn't drunk anything.

I left it in a campsite by mistake last week so am currently looking for another large capacity water bottle.
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Re: Water Carrier

Postby axel_knutt » 19 Jul 2017, 2:40pm

Sweep wrote:
axel_knutt wrote:I carry nearly 4 litres: three of these on the bike, and one of these in the pannier.


Have you found any problems with the first of those leaking?

The valves leak, but the cages are upright enough not to lose any water if they've just been filled up to the neck of the bottle.
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Re: Water Carrier

Postby irc » 19 Jul 2017, 4:53pm

Four litres on the main triangle.

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To get a 1L bottle under the downtube without fouling the wheel or two large bottles inside the main triangle you may need to move the bottle mounts up or down. Easily done with a Mount Skidmore attachment. A aluminium plate with a choice of mounting holes which bolts on to your existing bottle mounts.

http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/reviews/ ... _id=550005

A BBB Fuel Tank XL cage will fit a 2l water bottle. I use a velcro strap to secure the top of the bottle.

Lots of good bottle cage ideas at

http://www.cyclingabout.com/cargo-cages ... tle-cages/

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Re: Water Carrier

Postby Sweep » 19 Jul 2017, 6:06pm

NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
1L folding bottle 30 grams, £1.96...........had a dud (manufacturing fault) so bought several, at that price you can afford to, used several times so far and OK, cap does not leak.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1L-Foldable-P ... 2749.l2649

One of these too, not used yet but looks similar to others posted, 5L, 70 grams £1.50.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5L-Portable-F ... sqWKpkWadg

Add some extra bottles, frame mount plastic bottle bosses, £3.99, not used yet but older design was very sound.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5L-Portable-F ... sqWKpkWadg

interesting suggestions natural ankling but where do you put the full bottles? Space in panniers may be limited if the OP packs anything like me.

Or secure them to the bike/rack?

By the by, I have used that first company you link to for a lot of camping bits and bobs.

Maybe not quite the cheapest but they are good and reliable and describe things fairly. Stuff tends to arrive in two to three weeks.
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Re: Water Carrier

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 19 Jul 2017, 9:48pm

Hi,
Ok some firms on ebay like high street names that also sell online and ebay, just have the one cheap bike / camping part.

Them 1L folding bottles are quite cheap at £ 1.96.

I put them in the pannier and as they are soft and light just fine.

Don't fill em right up (any folding), and expel some of the air left so the remaining air can be compressed still, so not to over pressurise the seams.
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Re: Water Carrier

Postby Vantage » 20 Jul 2017, 12:33am

Carrying extra water equals extra weight to lug around. As said above, it falls from the sky and if you clean it, it's free.
I've been using one of these for about 2 years around the north west of englandshire and I'm still not dead. So it must be working ok.

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Re: Water Carrier

Postby Sweep » 20 Jul 2017, 7:06am

Seems a bit extreme for pedals around the NW. And i fear that you will reinforce some southerners' ideas that there are no taps up there and that folk stagger from stream to stream in their clogs.
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Re: Water Carrier

Postby paul434 » 20 Jul 2017, 7:29am

Why carry all that water when there's loads in Scotland just waiting to be picked up?
Carry one filtration bottle is all you'll need.
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Re: Water Carrier

Postby nirakaro » 20 Jul 2017, 8:42am

I have a standard bottle cage jubilee clipped to each side of my front fork.

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Re: Water Carrier

Postby Vantage » 20 Jul 2017, 9:43am

Sweep wrote:Seems a bit extreme for pedals around the NW. And i fear that you will reinforce some southerners' ideas that there are no taps up there and that folk stagger from stream to stream in their clogs.

Have you ever tasted the tap water from Bolton or Manchester? We should have a puke emoticon for that stuff.
I think some people do actually still wear clogs round these parts though.
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Re: Water Carrier

Postby Sweep » 20 Jul 2017, 10:08am

now now

on the topic, this might be of interest to the OP though I can't vouch for it:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Khyam-Liquipa ... 1389726944

I did buy something like this - (but a cheaper copy) for not much more than £7.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CamelBak-Camo ... 1389726944

Haven't used it yet but I think they have real possibilities for touring. Plenty of D rings and attachment points for fastening to a rack and you have the option of temporarily putting it on your back. Particularly useful at the end of the day.

Lots available on ebay. Some of the more expensive ones are genuine military items - I first saw one at a military surplus market stall in Italy.
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