Gear adjustment screws - What screwdriver?
Re: Gear adjustment screws - What screwdriver?
The problem is that you only want to modify a PH screwdriver that is not a very good one, it would be a waste otherwise, but incidentally those cheap ones are the most likely to be out of spec, so it's a bit of a gamble there.
If it's a £1 screwdriver, you can try. But I won't alter an otherwise perfectly ok PH scrrewdriver of good brand that has a higher price. Just fork out the £7 for a proper JIS then
If it's a £1 screwdriver, you can try. But I won't alter an otherwise perfectly ok PH scrrewdriver of good brand that has a higher price. Just fork out the £7 for a proper JIS then
It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best,
since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them.
Thus you remember them as they actually are...
since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them.
Thus you remember them as they actually are...
Re: Gear adjustment screws - What screwdriver?
That's obviously the Rolls Royce idea ........................ but why do we need one at all?Gattonero wrote: Just fork out the £7 for a proper JIS then
I've tried my Topeak multitool PH2 on both bikes - one Campag, and the other Shimano - and it fits fine on both. I tried a Crank Bros PH2 as well, and that works fine on both.
I rarely have to adjust the limit screws once set, and if I needed to, it would more than likely be at home and using the best tool for the job - a nice flat blade screwdriver.
If the PH2 on a multitool does the job adequately, and a flat blade does it as well, why are we even having this conversation?
Mick F. Cornwall
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Re: Gear adjustment screws - What screwdriver?
Mick F wrote:
If the PH2 on a multitool does the job adequately, and a flat blade does it as well, why are we even having this conversation?
Because the OP asked what was the correct tool for the job,but it's been established that a variety of tools will also do the job without spoiling the screw head
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Re: Gear adjustment screws - What screwdriver?
keyboardmonkey wrote:Airsporter1st wrote:... I really don't understand the general aversion to spending the price of a couple of pints on buying the right tool for the job.
I had priced it up as a medium cappuccino and a goat cheese panini, but otherwise I would have to agree
Funnily enough that's what I would take over a couple of pints, these days. I just thought the latter would be more universally applicable
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We were drinking pints of Skinners yesterday at £2.50 a pint.
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Re: Gear adjustment screws - What screwdriver?
Mick F wrote:We were drinking pints of Skinners yesterday at £2.50 a pint.
Did you go back to the 1980's?
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bertgrower wrote:Mick F wrote:We were drinking pints of Skinners yesterday at £2.50 a pint.
Did you go back to the 1980's?
You'd be lucky to have it for a fiver in London
It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best,
since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them.
Thus you remember them as they actually are...
since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them.
Thus you remember them as they actually are...
Re: Gear adjustment screws - What screwdriver?
reohn2 wrote:Mick F wrote:
If the PH2 on a multitool does the job adequately, and a flat blade does it as well, why are we even having this conversation?
Because the OP asked what was the correct tool for the job,but it's been established that a variety of tools will also do the job without spoiling the screw head
I would say it in a different way:
"according to the situation, a variety of tools may also do the job without spoiling the screw head"
It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best,
since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them.
Thus you remember them as they actually are...
since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them.
Thus you remember them as they actually are...
Re: Gear adjustment screws - What screwdriver?
Gattonero wrote:reohn2 wrote:Mick F wrote:
If the PH2 on a multitool does the job adequately, and a flat blade does it as well, why are we even having this conversation?
Because the OP asked what was the correct tool for the job,but it's been established that a variety of tools will also do the job without spoiling the screw head
I would say it in a different way:
"according to the situation, a variety of tools may also do the job without spoiling the screw head"
But it means the same thing doesn't it
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Re: Gear adjustment screws - What screwdriver?
Make it very simple:
If the screw is easy to turn, you can use almost anything that would somehow fit.
If the screw feels hard to turn, stop and use the proper tool.
If the screw is easy to turn, you can use almost anything that would somehow fit.
If the screw feels hard to turn, stop and use the proper tool.
It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best,
since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them.
Thus you remember them as they actually are...
since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them.
Thus you remember them as they actually are...
Re: Gear adjustment screws - What screwdriver?
Gattonero wrote:Make it very simple:
If the screw is easy to turn, you can use almost anything that would somehow fit.
If the screw feels hard to turn, stop and use the proper tool.
Agreed,but such small screws in such vulnerable places which aren't turned very often,should be lubed regularly so they don't get corroded and hard to turn.
In which case a PH2 a Pozi1 or a flat blade screwdriver will suffice.
As I posted up thread I'd no idea there was a JIS head and I suspect the vast majority of cyclists outside of the trade don't either.
We live and learn,but I suspect the vast majority of home cycle mechanics wont be taking the trouble to order a JIS screwdriver just for that job and I'll be one of them,hey ho we can't say we weren't told
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Re: Gear adjustment screws - What screwdriver?
reohn2 wrote:Gattonero wrote:Make it very simple:
If the screw is easy to turn, you can use almost anything that would somehow fit.
If the screw feels hard to turn, stop and use the proper tool.
Agreed,but such small screws in such vulnerable places which aren't turned very often,should be lubed regularly so they don't get corroded and hard to turn.
In which case a PH2 a Pozi1 or a flat blade screwdriver will suffice.
As I posted up thread I'd no idea there was a JIS head and I suspect the vast majority of cyclists outside of the trade don't either.
We live and learn,but I suspect the vast majority of home cycle mechanics wont be taking the trouble to order a JIS screwdriver just for that job and I'll be one of them,hey ho we can't say we weren't told
For the princely sum of £2.50, I've just joined the minority:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301856373916