What frame with sliding dropouts for Rohloff?

[PH]

There's no advantage in an eccentric BB over chaintugs the amount of adjustment is about the same or or more for the c/tugs.

The argued pros and cons are -
moving the wheel has an effect on other fitting (brakes and mudguards)
moving the BB effects the geometry
There's no agreement among framebuilders, I've heard strong opinion on both.
Of the two I've only used EBBs, pinch bolt type and the set screw ones, both are pretty crude but have worked faultlessly for me. The wedge type is the one that is prone to getting stuck, but from what I've read it's usually down to lack of maintenance.
I don't know how much of an issue moving the wheel is, but I think the ideal would be sliding dropouts which also act as a torque arm with the right hub, an advantage is a disc brake would move with the wheel. They also make for a versatile frame, a change of plates allows for a change of gearing.
http://www.ahrensbicycles.com/Sliding-Dropouts.htm

I had a quote a couple of years ago to have these fitted to an existing frame; dropouts, cable guides and powder coat was around £250, not cheap but if it turned a frame you liked into one that met all your criteria not extortionate either.

[reohn2]

I think we're at cross purposes,my fault.
The Longitude has track like ends with a deraileur hanger:-

Which stricly speaking are horizontal or tack ends rather than sliding dropouts,I was under the impression that's what the OP had in mind.

[PH]

I think we're at cross purposes,my fault.

Not at all. A Rohloff can fit in a variety of dropouts, it's just the further away from the specific thing, the more compromises need to be made.

[hamish]

A discussion on Rohloffs on a Longitude here http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/quick-rohloff-questions-horizontaltrack-dropouts

[tommydog]

Which stricly speaking are horizontal or tack ends rather than sliding dropouts.

I think all the suggestions are useful, and I am seriously considering a longitude. But for actual "sliding dropouts" I don't see anything that suits my spec? Is anyone aware of anything?

[jacksonz]

How about an Intec frame from Bike24 : https://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=8; ... 166;page=2

I have the same in 700c with v-brakes. I like it very much!

[PH]

How about an Intec frame from Bike24 : https://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=8; ... 166;page=2

I have the same in 700c with v-brakes. I like it very much!

That's a good find, looks to tick all the boxes, I'm tempted to get one myself.

[tommydog]

How about an Intec frame from Bike24 : https://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=8; ... 166;page=2

I have the same in 700c with v-brakes. I like it very much!

Thanks for the suggestion. I don't really know much about intec and it is difficult to find reviews. Do they only do that frame for 700c?

[PH]

How about an Intec frame from Bike24 : https://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=8; ... 166;page=2

I have the same in 700c with v-brakes. I like it very much!

Do they only do that frame for 700c?

I think the link is a 26" wheel?

[andrew_s]

Another bike to look at is the Salsa Fargo

http://salsacycles.com/bikes/fargo/2017 ... i_frameset

[tommydog]

Problem with the Fargo it is not for 26" wheels.

[Bonefishblues]

Sounds like this frame would be ideal?

http://www.oxfordbikeworks.co.uk/models/rohloff-tour/

Not sure that he sells frames separately, but I think I know who makes them for him, so I'm sure where there's a will etc

[PH]

Sounds like this frame would be ideal?

http://www.oxfordbikeworks.co.uk/models/rohloff-tour/

Not sure that he sells frames separately, but I think I know who makes them for him, so I'm sure where there's a will etc

I also thought of them, but they miss the disc brake requirement.

[Bonefishblues]

Sounds like this frame would be ideal?

http://www.oxfordbikeworks.co.uk/models/rohloff-tour/

Not sure that he sells frames separately, but I think I know who makes them for him, so I'm sure where there's a will etc

I also thought of them, but they miss the disc brake requirement.

Ah yes, my error, they can add them but you're in the realm of full custom at that point.

[speedsixdave]

How about an Intec frame from Bike24 : https://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=8; ... 166;page=2

I have the same in 700c with v-brakes. I like it very much!

Thanks for the suggestion. I don't really know much about intec and it is difficult to find reviews. Do they only do that frame for 700c?

I bought an Intec a few years ago from Sonic Cycles, sliding Rohloff dropouts, disc mounts and 26" wheels, with guides for hydraulic pipes too. All exactly as the OP suggested. At the time (2008 apparently) it was fairly cheap - £250ish? - but they appear to be rather more now on the Sonic website. Similar to this but with the disc mounts of this frame. The powdercoated paint was not great and cracked and flaked after about three winters.

It's a very solid bike - I call it the battleship - and it carries a camping load well, which was my original requirement. But it is no fun at all to ride unladen, very stiff and not comfortable, even with big tyres. Be careful what you wish for!