Anti-sieze for new titanium frame assembly

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Airsporter1st
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This is the stuff I swear by and have always found to be very effective. No metal content and much less hazardous than copper or nickel based compounds.

https://www.weicon.co.uk/product/asw-120-p/

Not cheap, but a little goes a very long way and it can be bought in smaller quantities - I buy the syringe packed stuff which is very easy to apply.
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Re: Anti-sieze for new titanium frame assembly

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Airsporter1st wrote:This is the stuff I swear by and have always found to be very effective. No metal content and much less hazardous than copper or nickel based compounds.

https://www.weicon.co.uk/product/asw-120-p/

Not cheap, but a little goes a very long way and it can be bought in smaller quantities - I buy the syringe packed stuff which is very easy to apply.

Thanks for that. Wonder what's in it? It says no toxic heavy metals, not no metal at all. Probably an amateur mechanic, using a little copper grease once a year or so, is not at much risk of harm by possible absorption through the skin.

I decided to use copper grease because that's what most people seem happy with, including Van Nicholas bikes, and I've used it before.
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Re: Anti-sieze for new titanium frame assembly

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you can get copper grease in an aerosol spray. :wink:
https://www.properjob.biz/shop/Copper-Grease-M3500

even seen it on sale in lidls or aldi.
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Re: Anti-sieze for new titanium frame assembly

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NetworkMan wrote:
Airsporter1st wrote:This is the stuff I swear by and have always found to be very effective. No metal content and much less hazardous than copper or nickel based compounds.

https://www.weicon.co.uk/product/asw-120-p/

Not cheap, but a little goes a very long way and it can be bought in smaller quantities - I buy the syringe packed stuff which is very easy to apply.


Thanks for that. Wonder what's in it? It says no toxic heavy metals, not no metal at all. Probably an amateur mechanic, using a little copper grease once a year or so, is not at much risk of harm by possible absorption through the skin.

I decided to use copper grease because that's what most people seem happy with, including Van Nicholas bikes, and I've used it before.


Says 'metal free' here:

https://www.weicon.de/en/industries/oil-and-gas/coating-and-protecting/117/anti-seize-high-tech-assembly-paste

I wasn't referring to any one user in 'hazardous', just a general observation - don't forget copper grease has to be produced somewhere and copper being toxic to e.g marine life, makes it hazardous. Not that that would stop me using 'coppaslip' if strictly required, but for the majority of uses and in particular stainless against stainless threads, I have found the Weicon stuff to be perfectly adequate and nowhere near as messy.
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Re: Anti-sieze for new titanium frame assembly

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NetworkMan wrote:
Gattonero wrote:
NetworkMan wrote:Glad you like it. It's almost certainly just expensive copper grease.


https://www.evanscycles.com/finish-line ... h-EV171013
£8.50 to avoid problems on dozens of frames, including expensive >£2k titanium frames and their expensive components?
It's bargain for me :D

Glad you like it :)
Sadly, though, I suspect that it is out of production - as your out of stock link, and finish-line usa website seems to confirm. All I could find were three small inconvenient plastic sachets of probably err.. expensive copper grease :!:


Well, I got a jar a while ago and there's still plenty so I'd say I'm sorted for the next 5 years at least :D
Of course, small sachets would cost a number of times more than a decently sized jar. This product thickens up a bit with time, but the shelf life is good over 10 years (I know people using the same jar by a decade now).

What I always liked about the Finish Line is that is very thick paste so the adhesion on the parts is very good, and I always found it very effective even after years: it just goes darker but rest assured that alluminum cups won't seize in a titanium thread :D

In future I may give a try to this, although I'm not too keen of its thinner 1-2NLGI grade:
https://www.morrislubricants.co.uk/k383 ... pound.html
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Threaded BBs in a Ti frame can lead to annoying creaking. The solutio is PTFE tape and waterproof grease. Nothing else works as well.
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Slimtim wrote:Threaded BBs in a Ti frame can lead to annoying creaking. The solutio is PTFE tape and waterproof grease. Nothing else works as well.


Nope.
PTFE tape adds a noticeable thickness so will work only on slack threads. Copper-grease, and especially the thick ones, will stay there even when it spreads on a very thin film.
I've fitted hundreds of bottom brackets in Titanium frames, and never found the need to use tape, a sound thread has not extra room for tape.
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