Alternative to an E-bike

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rjb
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Alternative to an E-bike

Postby rjb » 22 Oct 2018, 9:07pm

Just been sent this pic taken of a vehicle in the Moretonhampstead motor museum.

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Mortonhampstead motor museum
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Anybody own a trailer and an odd spare engine. :wink:

http://moretonmotormuseum.co.uk
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Re: Alternative to an E-bike

Postby rmurphy195 » 22 Oct 2018, 11:59pm

E-Bikes are, in my view, electric versions of the old mopeds (e.g. Raleigh Wisp) which, I believe, were legally limited to 30mph and usually had small motors which couldn't be souped-up either economically or cheaply. (Modern "mopeds" are a different kettle of fish from what I hear!)

E-Bikes are legally limited to a much lower speed to make them legal on bike paths etc - 15mph is it? BUT many are, at the flick of a switch or entry of a code able to be made capable of much higher speeds, are often advertised as such while at the same time being advertised as legal. They are not, or perhaps rather should not be, and many of them have no place on bridleways, cycle paths, or - dare I say it - at the bike show,they belong at the motorbike show!

There seem to be a lot of people who think that if an electric motorbike can be pedalled it's legally an electrically assisted pedal cycle. Some examples I saw at the bike show, such as those with the rather nice-looking 1920's "flat-tank" motorbike styling, heavy balloon tyres and all, have pedals fitted in this way, along with the chunkier electrically powered mountain bikes.

The mickey is being taken, and we will all eventually pay for it one way or another. Imagine the Tissington trail full of these things hurtling along -
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Re: Alternative to an E-bike

Postby landsurfer » 23 Oct 2018, 2:34pm

Cry Havoc - and let loose the dogs of war !!!! :)
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Re: Alternative to an E-bike

Postby Brucey » 23 Oct 2018, 5:07pm

rjb wrote:Just been sent this pic taken of a vehicle in the Moretonhampstead motor museum.

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Anybody own a trailer and an odd spare engine. :wink:

http://moretonmotormuseum.co.uk


That looks like a 'Wall Auto Wheel'

http://www.oldbike.eu/museum/engines/1902-1910/cycle-attachment-engines-1909-1914-wall-autowheel/

perhaps cleverly (and unlike cyclemasters etc) this leaves the bicycle or tricycle structure not bearing the weight of the engine, thus meaning that the auto-wheel can be used with almost any bike, even a relatively light and flimsy one. In bicycle use it sits alongside the bicycle rear wheel, and has its own swinging arm, so that the bike leans normally.

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However the whole thing is slightly worrying; just imagine if the throttle jammed open and you couldn't kill the motor..... :shock:

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Re: Alternative to an E-bike

Postby pete75 » 23 Oct 2018, 6:04pm

You could always emulate Colin Furze


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Re: Alternative to an E-bike

Postby Oldjohnw » 24 Oct 2018, 4:58pm

You can, of course, cycle an ebike as fast as you like just like any bike but once over 22kph(?) you have no motor support. I regularly reach 45-50kph.

On the road, of course, and I have no way if getting around the limit. Nor would I wish to.

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Re: Alternative to an E-bike

Postby Vetus Ossa » 24 Oct 2018, 5:50pm

Oldjohnw wrote:You can, of course, cycle an ebike as fast as you like just like any bike but once over 22kph(?) you have no motor support. I regularly reach 45-50kph.

On the road, of course, and I have no way if getting around the limit. Nor would I wish to.


Tut tut, no crash helmet either :roll: