Pedals suitable for barefoot shoes ( ultra-thin soles )

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Re: Pedals suitable for barefoot shoes ( ultra-thin soles )

Postby [XAP]Bob » 29 Dec 2018, 7:05pm

I quite like the look of the ergo ones above actually - but can’t see how to attaché a decent strap (which would be needed, both for retention and power).

OTOH if normal men pedals are Ok with barefoot shoes I might not need to be as clever. Just add power straps and lose the pins...
If I really want to then use the pinholes to add a thin plastic plate as well.
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Re: Pedals suitable for barefoot shoes ( ultra-thin soles )

Postby Cunobelin » 29 Dec 2018, 8:28pm

[XAP]Bob wrote:I quite like the look of the ergo ones above actually - but can’t see how to attaché a decent strap (which would be needed, both for retention and power).

OTOH if normal men pedals are Ok with barefoot shoes I might not need to be as clever. Just add power straps and lose the pins...
If I really want to then use the pinholes to add a thin plastic plate as well.


As I mentioned, that is the down side, however......


My wife uses "Power Grips" as he knees cannot shake the movement that releasing SPDs requires:

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These attach by bolt to the pedals as illustrated.

I should imagine that with a little ingenuity they could be fitted with a drilled hole and either a bolt or self tapping screw on to the Ergon pedals.

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Re: Pedals suitable for barefoot shoes ( ultra-thin soles )

Postby Bob999 » 29 Dec 2018, 9:22pm

Would these be any good? - MKS Urban Platform Pedals - take clips and straps - perhaps the ridges would be uncomfortable though. I filed the two tallest ridges on the inside down on my mine. Had them for a few years with no problems and no maintenance required.

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Pyro Plaforms ?

Postby zenitb » 2 Jan 2019, 12:10am

Maybe some of the triathlon shoes designed for trainers ?

https://the5krunner.com/reviews-1/2012-review-pyro-platforms/
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Re: Pedals suitable for barefoot shoes ( ultra-thin soles )

Postby Brucey » 2 Jan 2019, 12:17am

FWIW when I looked at ergon pedals, they looked comfy but the bearings in them were rubbish; a DU bearing inboard IIRC.

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Re: Pedals suitable for barefoot shoes ( ultra-thin soles )

Postby JohnW » 2 Jan 2019, 12:39am

Bob999 wrote:Would these be any good? - MKS Urban Platform Pedals - take clips and straps - perhaps the ridges would be uncomfortable though. I filed the two tallest ridges on the inside down on my mine. Had them for a few years with no problems and no maintenance required.

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I have found these to be very good pedals. They do what the description says and the bearings are very good as I've found in all MKS pedals. The sad thing is that the MKS importers (Zyro) don't list them any more, although SJS cycles do. The only issue is that fitting the straps is fiddly.

MKS do a pedal which could be better for the purpose - their : MKS GR-10 Wide Platform Pedals - Black . These appear on the SJS website although, again, the MKS importers (Zyro) don't list them. They're on this page :

https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/search/?ter ... m%20pedals

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Re: Pyro Plaforms ?

Postby RickH » 2 Jan 2019, 12:47am

zenitb wrote:Maybe some of the triathlon shoes designed for trainers ?

https://the5krunner.com/reviews-1/2012-review-pyro-platforms/

If you click on the Product link in the first sentence of the review (or here if you don't want to go via the link above), one of the photos looks suspiciously like it is attached to a pedal on a recumbent trike! :D

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Re: Pedals suitable for barefoot shoes ( ultra-thin soles )

Postby pwa » 2 Jan 2019, 12:57am

It seems to me that there are two questions to be asked about non-conventional pedal systems. One is about how it feels in use, and the other is how easy it is to get your feet out quickly if you need to. I always found straps a bit unreliable when it came to getting feet out.

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Re: Pedals suitable for barefoot shoes ( ultra-thin soles )

Postby [XAP]Bob » 2 Jan 2019, 4:02pm

One benefit of a bent trike is that the release process is rarely an issue
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Re: Pedals suitable for barefoot shoes ( ultra-thin soles )

Postby pwa » 2 Jan 2019, 4:10pm

[XAP]Bob wrote:One benefit of a bent trike is that the release process is rarely an issue

Ah, a trike. That does answer that one.

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Re: Pedals suitable for barefoot shoes ( ultra-thin soles )

Postby [XAP]Bob » 2 Jan 2019, 7:46pm

Thebpytos look interesting - all the disadvantages in that review are due to poor bike design :mrgreen: or efforts at racing... they take cleats, which means They could move between vehicles if needed and release in an emergency, and have positive heel retention.
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Pyro Platform Issues

Postby zenitb » 3 Jan 2019, 9:23pm

[XAP]Bob wrote:Thebpytos look interesting - all the disadvantages in that review are due to poor bike design :mrgreen: or efforts at racing... they take cleats, which means They could move between vehicles if needed and release in an emergency, and have positive heel retention.


Yes agreed, all the Pyros drawbacks in the review are drawbacks of using them FOR TRIATHLON. the reviewer admits they are comfortable in use. The price seems steep though and they look hard to get hold of. It does look like they are very specialised bits of kit.

RickH has spotted that they actually just use 3-bolt or 2-bolt cleats so easy re-use between bikes - I didn't notice that when I posted the link or the use on a 'bent trike...

I could only find this supplier though ..

https://www.triathlon-accessories.com/t ... triathlon/

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Re: Pedals suitable for barefoot shoes ( ultra-thin soles )

Postby [XAP]Bob » 3 Jan 2019, 9:50pm

Expensive, but possibly worth it. Cleats also offer that ‘disconnect when you get hit by a car’ which I needed last year.
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Re: Pedals suitable for barefoot shoes ( ultra-thin soles )

Postby truckturner » 5 Jan 2019, 5:03pm

You could try these
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from Brick lane Bikes I have no experience of them-- I use these MKS lambadas with any flat shoe, croc, sandal, flip flop etc on my touring bike, mountain bike and Brompton They look ridiculous but I love them
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Re: Pedals suitable for barefoot shoes ( ultra-thin soles )

Postby Tigerbiten » 5 Jan 2019, 10:11pm

The trouble is these pedals are for a recumbent trike.
On a bike the pedal is almost horizontal and your weight helps to keep your foot in place and unless your doing something stupid, it will stay there.
On a recumbent the pedal is almost vertical and the pressure of your foot against it a lot less and it may only take the force of a big bump to knock it off.
If that happens and your foot hits the ground and stops moving then the cross frame can give you an extra bend in your leg.
I'll admit the risk of this happening is similar to if you fall off a bike without a helmet on and end up with brain damage.
So with plain flat pedals on a recumbent, it's a question do you accept that risk or do you fit clips/heel supports so to minimize it.

On my recumbent trike I personally clip in but don't wear a helmet as I think this roughly balances out the risk.

Ps, I like the the triathlon shoes as they are similar to my idea of oversized SPD sandals ...... :D