Campagnolo Ergo lever hoods

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Campagnolo Ergo lever hoods

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I have a pair of 2011 Ultrashift Chorus shifters which need new hoods. Have Campagnolo changed the shape of their levers since then, or will the current model hoods fit?
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Re: Campagnolo Ergo lever hoods

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I often look at the manufacurer's websites, both Shimano and Campagnolo are fairly easy to navigate and locate the part you need.

This is the campagnolo one
https://www.campagnolo.com/WW/en/Support/download?td=3
from which I would assume the "ultrashift" hoods are the same for the mechanical groupset. Don't know about the 12 speed, too complicated.
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Re: Campagnolo Ergo lever hoods

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londonbikerider wrote:I often look at the manufacurer's websites, both Shimano and Campagnolo are fairly easy to navigate and locate the part you need.

This is the campagnolo one
https://www.campagnolo.com/WW/en/Support/download?td=3
from which I would assume the "ultrashift" hoods are the same for the mechanical groupset. Don't know about the 12 speed, too complicated.

The link just goes to the generic home page and not the item the OP enquired about.
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Re: Campagnolo Ergo lever hoods

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There are several different campagnolo ergo lever hoods. To be sure of the fitment you need to look at the spare parts pdf for your shifter (correct model and year) and check the part number. However this is a guide to the common/available hoods


EC-RE500 pre 1998 8s/9s 'pointy' lever hood.
EC-RE600 1999- '10s' 'full & rounded' lever hoods
EC-SR500 2011- '11s' 'lopsided' hoods


Just to confuse matters some lever shapes were used in the lower groups with a different number of gears, so for example in some years Veloce was actually 9s but had '10s' shaped lever hoods.

Below are some online pictures; in time I daresay the links will get broken, hence the descriptions above which ought to be enough if there are one or two pictures missing
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EC-RE500
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EC-RE600
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EC-SR500

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Re: Campagnolo Ergo lever hoods

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Thanks. What I need are the lopsided hoods - I've ordered some. And what you say about the hood shape not matching with the number of speeds is certainly true - I have a set of Chorus 8-speed Ergos that I bought about 20 years ago, but they have the rounded hood shape of the 10-speed Ergos.
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Re: Campagnolo Ergo lever hoods

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De Sisti wrote:
londonbikerider wrote:I often look at the manufacurer's websites, both Shimano and Campagnolo are fairly easy to navigate and locate the part you need.

This is the campagnolo one
https://www.campagnolo.com/WW/en/Support/download?td=3
from which I would assume the "ultrashift" hoods are the same for the mechanical groupset. Don't know about the 12 speed, too complicated.

The link just goes to the generic home page and not the item the OP enquired about.


Erm, no, it goes to the page where you can select the spare parts catalogue.
Because the user already knows the year of the shifters, it's a breeze to select the relevant document for a given year.
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Re: Campagnolo Ergo lever hoods

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NickJP wrote:Thanks. What I need are the lopsided hoods - I've ordered some. And what you say about the hood shape not matching with the number of speeds is certainly true - I have a set of Chorus 8-speed Ergos that I bought about 20 years ago, but they have the rounded hood shape of the 10-speed Ergos.


Those would have been converted from 10s (or 9s) to 8s, I think. Chorus ergos would have been the same as Record in any one year, not n-2.

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Re: Campagnolo Ergo lever hoods

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londonbikerider wrote:I often look at the manufacurer's websites, both Shimano and Campagnolo are fairly easy to navigate and locate the part you need.

This is the campagnolo one
https://www.campagnolo.com/WW/en/Support/download?td=3
from which I would assume the "ultrashift" hoods are the same for the mechanical groupset. Don't know about the 12 speed, too complicated.


The UltraShift hoods changed slightly for fit in 2015 and the post 2015 hoods don't sit quite correctly on a 2009-2014 body.
The part number the OP needs is EC-SR500, they are readily available online or preferably from any Campagnolo ProShop ...
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Re: Campagnolo Ergo lever hoods

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ergo hoods wear out and are damaged in crashes. They are also easy to change, and different colours etc are possible, so plenty are sold. Probably you could cover most ergo fitments with just four or five part numbers, in terms of getting a hood which is a tolerable fit. However, in detail, it is a lot more complicated than that. I spent a little while ploughing through the available spare parts pdfs and I came up with the information below.

in addition some early ergo models were also sold with 'Sachs' branding on them. I'd assume that the lever hoods are cross-compatible.

Please let me know and I will correct any errors or omissions. Also note that some of the separate pns may well have been superseded or can be replaced by others; in many cases this isn't clear. Note also that if it doesn't display correctly (it probably won't, because the forum doesn't support all text characters) it may do so better if cut and pasted into a text document of some kind.

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campagnolo 'ergo' lever hoods

key to hood part nos in chart below:

o, EC-RE022/023 Original Ergo hoods
av, EC-AT005/006 Original Athena/Veloce ergo hoods
os, EC-ST005/006 Original stratos ergo hoods
er, EC-RE122/123 Early Record ergo hoods
tr, EC-RE222/223 Third type record ergo hoods
ta, EC-AV222/223 Avanti ergo hoods
fr, EC-RE222/323 fourth type record ergo hoods
fa, EC-AV222/323 Avanti ergo hoods
a, EC-RE500 pre 1998 8s/9s 'pointy' lever hood.
b, EC-RE600 1999- '10s' 'full & rounded' lever hoods
c, EC-AT500 'Powershift' lever hoods
d, EC-SR500 2011- '11s' Ultrashift 'lopsided' hoods
de, EC-SR500EPS 11s EPS hoods
e, EC-CE500 'escape' hoods
f , EC-XE022/EC-XE023
g , EC-SR600 11s ultrashift
h , EC-DB500 Hydro 11s
he, EC-DB500EPS Hydro 11s EPS
hp, EC-DB500PO Potenza Hydro 11s
p, EC-PO500 Potenza
t , EC-RDB600 Record hydro 12s
s , EC-SRDB600 SR hydro 12s
u, EC-SR700 SR 12s
v, EC-RE700 RE 12s



Year, SR, RE, CH, Ath/Pot, Cent/Day, Vel, Mir,

1994, na, o, o, av, na, av, na, Note 1994
1995, na, er, er, rt, na, er, er, Note 1995
1996, na, tr, tr, tr, na, tr, tr, Note 1996
1997, na, 8/9s fr, 8/9s fr, fr, na, fr, fr, Note 1997
1998, na, 9s b, 9s b, 9s a, na, 9s a, a, Note 1998
1999, na, 9s b, 9s b, 9s b, na, 9s b, 8/9s b, Note 1999

2000, na, 9/10s b, 9/10s b, na, (Day)9s b, 9s b, 9s b, Note 2000
2001, na, 9/10s b, 9/10s b, na, (Day)9/10s b, 9s b, 9s b, Note 2001
2002, na, 10s b, 10s b, na, (Cent)10s b, 9s b, 9s b, Note 2002
2003, na, 10s b, 10s b, na, 10s b , 9s b, 9s b, Note 2003
2004, na, 10s b, 10s b, na, 10s b , 9/10s b, 9s b, Note 2004
2005, na, 10s b, 10s b , na, 10s b, 9/10s b, 9s b, Note 2005
2006, na, 10s b, 10s b , na, 10s b, 10s b , 9s b, Note 2006
2007, na, 10s b , 10s b, na, 10s QS ES e, 10s QS ES e, 10s QS ES e, Note 2007
2008, na, 10s QS b, 10s QS b, na, 10s QS ES e, 10s QS ES e, 10s QS ES e, Note 2008
2009, 11s US d, 11s US d, 11s US d, na, 10s US d, 10s US d, na, Note 2009

2010, 11s US d, 11s US d, 11s US d, 11s US d, 10s US d, 10s US d, na, Note 2010
2011, 11s US d, 11s US d, 11s US d, 11s PS c, 10s PS c, 10s PS c , 10s ES e, Note 2011
2012, 11s US d, 11s US d, 11s US d, 11s PS c, 10s PS c, 10s PS c , 10s ES e, Note 2012
2013, 11s US d, 11s US d, 11s US d, 11s PS c, 10s PS c, 10s PS c, 10s ES e, Note 2013
2014, 11s US d, 11s US d, 11s US d, 11s PS c, 10s PS c, 10s PS c, na, Note 2014
2015, 11s US g, 11s US g, 11s US g, 11s PS c, na, 10s PS c, na, Note 2015
2016, Note 2016
2017, 11s US g, 11s US g, 11s US g, (Pot)11s PS p, (Ath)11s PS c, 10s PS c, na, Note 2017
2018, 11s US g, 11s US g, 11s US g, (Pot)11s PS p, 11s PS p, 10s PS c, na, Note 2018
2019, 12s US u, 12s US v, 11s US g, (Pot)11s PS p, 11s PS p, 10s PS c, na, Note 2019

where

na = not applicable
SR, = Super Record
RE, = Record
CH, = Chorus
Ath/Pot, = Athena ?Potenza
Cent/Day, = Centaur/Daytona
Vel, = Veloce,
Mir, = Mirage,
QS = Quick Shift
ES = Escape
PS = Power Shift
US = Ultra Shift

note that lever hood part nos come with suffixes, eg B, W, R which signify colour. Other suffixes (eg EC-DB500PO vs EC-DB500EPS) may indicate a genuinely different (incompatible) fit or simply a different appearance, but the same fit; this point needs clarification.


Notes

1994 also lists Stratos (os)
1995 also lists Avanti (er)
1996 also lists Avanti (ta)
1997 also lists Avanti (fa)
1998 also lists Avanti 8s (a)
1999 also lists Avanti 8s (a)
2000 also lists Daytona 9s b)
2001 also lists record carbon brake levers, hood b
2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 also lists Xenon ES 9s f)
2007 also lists Xenon 10s QS ES e
2008 also lists Xenon 10s QS ES e
2009 also lists Veloce 10s ES,QS b
2010 also lists Veloce 10s ES,QS e
2011 also lists RE, CH QS 10s (b), and Cen, Vel, Mirage, Xenon 9/10s 'Escape' models (e)
2012 also lists RE QS 10s (b), and Cen, Vel, Mirage, Xenon 9/10s 'Escape' models (e)
2013 also lists SR, RE, Ath EPS models (de), RE, 10s (b), Escape; Cen, Vel, Mir, Xe 10s, Xe 9s (e)
2014 also lists SR, RE, Ath EPS models (de), RE, CH 10s (b), Escape; Cen, Vel, Mir, Xe 10s, Xe 9s (e)
2015 also lists EPS models (de), RE, CH 10s b, XE ES 9/10s (e),
2016 appears to be missing from campag website
2017 also lists EPS SR, RE, CH, (de), RE 10s (b), XE ES 9/10s (e)
2018 also lists EPS SR, RE, CH, (de), Potenza 11s Hydro (hp), H11 (h), H11 eps (he), Escape Xe 9/10s (e)
2019 also lists EPS SR, RE, CH, (de), RE, SR 11s (g), Potenza 11s Hydro (hp), H11 (h), Escape (all) (e), H11 eps (he), SR Hydro 12s s, RE Hydro 12s (t)

Note re compatibility of rear mechs. There are two shift ratios, the 'old' and the 'new'. Pretty much all 8s is 'old' and all 10s/11s is 'new'. 9s mechs of both types exist; if there is a 'b tension screw' on the upper knuckle (like a shimano RD) then the 9s mech is 'old' and if the adjuster is on the lower knuckle it is 'new'. In addition to the shift ratio issue RDs which are to be paired with ES or PS type shifters have weaker return springs and won't work well with G-spring type / US type shifters. If you use a US type RD with PS or ES type shifters, the spring is too strong and this further shortens the life of these shifters (which often isn't great anyway).
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Re: Campagnolo Ergo lever hoods

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I've been reading through this because I've a bike to rebuild, and I have some parts that I've bought from time to time because they looked useful. I previously had 8-speed Athena (with a screw-on freewheel). It still works, but the rear hub failed and I'd decided to modernise a bit(!) I've got some 9-speed wheels, so I've been thinking about whether to keep the 8-speed or see what else I could use.

I've got these Veloce Ergos, which I had thought were 10-speed. However, they are identical to 2010 11-speed ones:

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Working through the catalogues linked above, however, I found from the parts catalogue that, in 2009, there were two different Veloce Ergo designs, both 10-speed, and that the Ultrashift ones were "sculpted shape", item EP9-VLUXC (that's the right one).

Roll back the hood and hey presto:

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So hopefully, reading Brucey's information above, that will work with the Champion Triple that I also have. Or maybe that's old-pull, because it doesn't say 9-speed. More checking to do. I'll have to look for a part number on that...
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Re: Campagnolo Ergo lever hoods

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drossall wrote: ….I've got these Veloce Ergos, which I had thought were 10-speed. However, they are identical to 2010 11-speed ones.....

Working through the catalogues linked above, however, I found from the parts catalogue that, in 2009, there were two different Veloce Ergo designs, both 10-speed, and that the Ultrashift ones were "sculpted shape", item EP9-VLUXC (that's the right one).


that is correct and (I think) also as per my listing; one version uses 'd' hoods and the others may (in theory) use 'b' hoods in 2009 or 'e' hoods in 2010 (see notes for each year). Some product sold/catalogue listed in 2010 will have been manufactured in 2009; there isn't always a clear cutoff.

FWIW once the shifters have seen a few miles those stickers are likely to come off or render themselves illegible; photographing them whilst you still have a chance is a good idea.

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Re: Campagnolo Ergo lever hoods

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So one of the most innovative technologies that Campagnolo (and other manufacturers) could usefully introduce in their 2021 models is to engrave the part numbers on all levers and derailleurs...
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Re: Campagnolo Ergo lever hoods

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Hi all,

I am new here. Currently in the process of buying a centaur groupset and hoods come only in black and I need white.

Official centaur is EC-PO500 (same as potenza)

Athena had EC-AT500W for Athena (pre-2015) (different upper design, but I don't care) and there is EC-SR600W for Ultrashift post 2015, hence with the big holes, but whatever if it fits the centaur lever.

EC-AT500W
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EC-SR600W
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EC-PO500 (potenza/centaur)
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Does someone knows for sure if those two models fits for sure (or do not for sure)?

Thank you for your help!

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Re: Campagnolo Ergo lever hoods

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I don't think those will suit the current Potenza/Centaur. Those look to have the rounded tops of pre-Ultrashift.
Current models of Ultrashift are more pointed on the top of the rubber.
You'll never know if you don't try it.
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Re: Campagnolo Ergo lever hoods

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Try Condor Cycles. They'll have the hoods you're after.
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