iandriver wrote:Vittoria seem to have totally pulled the plug on supple strong tyres. I was going to suggest the randennur pro foldings, but they seem to have gone also. They had thicker rubber and weren't quite as lush as the hyper, but are still pretty good. Most annoying.
I agree,more like a Supreme,thicker tread with supple sidewalls,they share the same carcass as Hypers.
But shouldn't be cofused with the cheaper ordinary Randoneur with the 60tpi carcass
I guess the problem is we have all snapped them up at greatly reduced prices, but at the sort of money they can actually run a business on, we were looking elsewhere.
I'd gladly pay £30 to £35 a tyre for Hypers,IMo there's less of a market for lightweight large volume tyres unless they's really pushed by the marketing men such Jan Heine,who though a small outfit really put their messafe across.
FWIW I asked Jan Heine on his blog whether he'd ever tested Hypers head to head with his own Compass (now Rene Herse) branded tyres but he never replied,something I thought strange at the time as he usually replies to direct questions.