Pinnacle Arkose R2 any good?

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Cowsham
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Pinnacle Arkose R2 any good?

Postby Cowsham » 9 Dec 2019, 8:20am

Arkose R2 seems to tick a lot of boxes for me but is there any of you had any experience or own one?
My list of criteria ( or what I think I need ) in order of importance ( although most of the list is important to me )

1 A light enough frame that I can use for the weekend club runs ( most of us are over 50 in my group so our averages are only about 17MPH ) but still has rear rack mounts and strong enough that the frame isn't too wobbly with the weight of all my gear ( it's very heavy but unloaded at my base camp / destination -- just getting to and from on/off the ferry fully loaded is important ) for those trips away.( not so worried about mudguards )
2 Hydraulic disc brakes is a must -- have had them for 3 years now with no bother whatsoever and they make packing the bike a lot easier.
3 105 or above group set
4 strong enough wheels that won't fall apart
5 £2k Max budget.
6 internal cable routing preferred if not then fully sheathed cables.
7 A slightly aggressive geometry to aggressive geometry. I don't like too much weight on my ars
8 A threaded BB if possible but not a deal breaker
9 I don't like compact frames cos I like the look of the more traditional road bike but again not a deal breaker ( the Arkose is just about OK in this area )
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DNC123

Re: Pinnacle Arkose R2 any good?

Postby DNC123 » 9 Dec 2019, 8:31am

Not sure if it is the Singletrack or Bike Radar (if you can navigate that set up!) forums, but one of them has a massive thread in praise of these bikes. One of the guys who sells them is on there and is always being asked questions and giving advice.

Bottom line seems to be that they are excellent bikes representing good value for money.

Am I right in thinking they are only available from Evans?

Cowsham
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Re: Pinnacle Arkose R2 any good?

Postby Cowsham » 9 Dec 2019, 2:21pm

CX-3 wrote:Not sure if it is the Singletrack or Bike Radar (if you can navigate that set up!) forums, but one of them has a massive thread in praise of these bikes. One of the guys who sells them is on there and is always being asked questions and giving advice.

Bottom line seems to be that they are excellent bikes representing good value for money.

Am I right in thinking they are only available from Evans?


Yes Pinnacle are the Vitus/Carrera of Evans world.

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Re: Pinnacle Arkose R2 any good?

Postby rotavator » 9 Dec 2019, 5:24pm


Cowsham
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Re: Pinnacle Arkose R2 any good?

Postby Cowsham » 9 Dec 2019, 9:26pm

rotavator wrote:This the mother of all Pinnacle Arkose threads referred to above:

https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/pinnacle-arkose-three-jameso-to-the-forum-please/page/21/?results=true


They seem to be discussing mainly gravel bikes such as the D2 ( dirt ) and previous Arkose models which were all gravel / cross from what I can gather -- there's one mention of the R2 ( road ) near the end of the thread ( obviously cos it's not long out ) but not sure there's much feedback on it. There's a bit more on the R1 but not much either ( caliper version )

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Re: Pinnacle Arkose R2 any good?

Postby Jamesh » 9 Dec 2019, 11:07pm

The R1 / R2 seems to have the same frame as the D/2/3

So will be durable but reviews suggests it's quite lightweight for a gravel bike.

Handling will be more endurance than racing.

Much better for commuting than caad 10 -13

Wheels make more of a difference than frames tbh.

Although there are fewer lightweight disc wheels around.

Cheers James

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Re: Pinnacle Arkose R2 any good?

Postby Cowsham » 9 Dec 2019, 11:26pm

Yes James the write up says they all share the same frame -- don't know if the forks change but it won't make a lot of difference to me if it is wide forks -- endurance works for me, just seems quite hard to get these days -- it's either an out an out ultra light race bike or gravel/Cyclocross bike. -- I'm not opposed to gravel bikes as they are very light as long as you could get a 28mm tyre on at least.

Your right about wheels /tyres being a big factor on the weight -- I don't want wheels that fall apart so not too precious about weight although would like to keep the bike under the 10kg mark.

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Re: Pinnacle Arkose R2 any good?

Postby Jamesh » 10 Dec 2019, 7:59am

Canyon endurance al?

Cannondale optimo / synspse /se

Specialised allez

Boardman alr

Decathlon van rysel

All should vaguely fit the bill of a sporty disc brake. Bike without being fragile.

Cheers James

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Re: Pinnacle Arkose R2 any good?

Postby Cowsham » 17 Dec 2019, 10:13pm

Thanks Jim -- Checked all these out but all have some major criteria missing like rack mount or disc brakes or rims that won't take road tyres.

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Re: Pinnacle Arkose R2 any good?

Postby Jamesh » 17 Dec 2019, 10:30pm

I would have thought they would all take mudguards, racks and road tyres.

Cheers James

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Re: Pinnacle Arkose R2 any good?

Postby Cowsham » 18 Dec 2019, 1:34am

No discs on optimo

Seems there's no rack mounts on the synapse with hydraulic brakes only on the mechanical disc brakes.

Specialised allez missing the rack

Boardman alr ( you may mean SLR ) can't find hydraulic with rack mounts -- so same as synapse.

Decathlon van rysel -- trouble finding one with good group set, hydraulics and rack mounts at the same time.

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Re: Pinnacle Arkose R2 any good?

Postby Jamesh » 18 Dec 2019, 9:00am

Sorry I didn't realise you wanted hydro discs!

Cheers James

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Re: Pinnacle Arkose R2 any good?

Postby Polisman » 18 Dec 2019, 7:45pm

Jamesh wrote:I would have thought they would all take mudguards, racks and road tyres.

Cheers James


I've had a few Pinnacle cyclo cross frames which I've rescued from ex racers who have traded to to carbon. They are exceptional builds, and the paint on them is very tough also. They can take a load of abuse, and they angles I find quite relaxed and very good for touring. I used one of these ex cyclo Cross bikes to tour Sweden a few years ago and I had a blast on it. Very responsive and super reliable. Wouldn't think twice about buying an Arkrose

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Re: Pinnacle Arkose R2 any good?

Postby Cowsham » 19 Dec 2019, 12:33am

Polisman wrote:
Jamesh wrote:I would have thought they would all take mudguards, racks and road tyres.

Cheers James


I've had a few Pinnacle cyclo cross frames which I've rescued from ex racers who have traded to to carbon. They are exceptional builds, and the paint on them is very tough also. They can take a load of abuse, and they angles I find quite relaxed and very good for touring. I used one of these ex cyclo Cross bikes to tour Sweden a few years ago and I had a blast on it. Very responsive and super reliable. Wouldn't think twice about buying an Arkrose


You should work for Evans --- anyway it'll be here tomorrow hopefully -- I'll let yous know what I think.

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Re: Pinnacle Arkose R2 any good?

Postby Cowsham » 28 Dec 2019, 6:55pm

Well -- had my first proper test of the Arkose on a wet windy day but the thing was just what I wanted.

Just light enough to let me keep up with the club runs --
The 105 group set performed perfectly
The hydraulic brakes were effective and easy to operate even from the hoods.
Geometry just right for me.
Steering was very stable so I could sit up hands off the bars which is reassuring and nice change of position on long runs.
The frame and wheels feel strong enough to carry my camping kit.

The thing that I thought would give me the most concern was the thing that pleased me the most -- the 30mm tyres. I thought I'd change them to 28's but the 30mm tyres rolled better than expected considering their width and smoothed out the rough roads while my friends took a battering. They'll probably get harder to push as they flatten out -- but I really liked the tyres.