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Tinpotflowers
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Pedals and big feet in trainers

Postby Tinpotflowers » 8 Jan 2020, 2:52pm

Pedals and big feet in trainers size 10 (UK size)

I have found my feet are too far back on the pedal and that the surface area of the pedal is too small.
I use the following pedal

https://www.tredz.co.uk/.MKS-GR9-Road-C ... R0QAvD_BwE
with half toeclips LARGE SIZE

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Zefal-Half-Toe ... th=1&psc=1

I have recently place packing pieces between the clip and the pedal.

But I suspect the contact area will still be too small.
Question

Is there a pair of platform pedal would suit that permit the fitting of half toe clips?
I do not want to break the bank if possible.
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NATURAL ANKLING
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Re: Pedals and big feet in trainers

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 8 Jan 2020, 3:07pm

Hi,
Those half toe are small and short.
I nearly tried the pedal too, what size is the platform if you don't mind?
MKS pedals have lovely bearings but they are small mostly.
This is what I use on most of my bikes, they range from 72-75 mm from mount plate to toe cutout, you could probably cut off the strap bits, they are very tough and I take size 9-10, I do space them off a bit at 3-4mm with a spacer to tune the position.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Plastic-CYCL ... 2708294527
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Add these with 95 mm wide cage and you have 138+ mm front to back, ditch the clippless bits.
https://aplbike.com/Wellgo-WPD-981-pedal
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slowster
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Re: Pedals and big feet in trainers

Postby slowster » 8 Jan 2020, 3:21pm

MKS GR10 is bigger than the GR9, and the tab for mounting toeclips appears to be further forward. I imagine you would still find it necessary to use spacers between the GR10 pedal and toeclips.

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Re: Pedals and big feet in trainers

Postby pwa » 8 Jan 2020, 3:41pm

Would these help? Someone asks a question about depth, on this page, and the answer is 55mm. How does that compare?

https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/toe-clips-s ... arge-deep/

When I was using toe clips I found that the shoe itself required careful selection. Some trainers have more excess shoe forward of the toes.

The "ball" of the foot should be over the centre of the pedal when you get it right. And by that I mean the base of the big toe. Most of your foot should be sticking out behind the pedal.

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Re: Pedals and big feet in trainers

Postby Brucey » 8 Jan 2020, 4:00pm

MKS Lambda pedals are larger than normal front to back and should accept toe clips.

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if you need to use spacers they probably won't show as badly, being hidden within the pedal slightly.
[edit; but then again the recess is narrow, so toe clips might not fit within it, not without modification anyway.]

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Re: Pedals and big feet in trainers

Postby nez » 8 Jan 2020, 4:13pm

pwa wrote:Would these help? Someone asks a question about depth, on this page, and the answer is 55mm. How does that compare?

https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/toe-clips-s ... arge-deep/

When I was using toe clips I found that the shoe itself required careful selection. Some trainers have more excess shoe forward of the toes.

The "ball" of the foot should be over the centre of the pedal when you get it right. And by that I mean the base of the big toe. Most of your foot should be sticking out behind the pedal.


You're right (says size 11) but I think really this bit "The "ball" of the foot should be over the centre of the pedal when you get it right" is much more easily achieved by using modern clip ins/clipless or whatever the hell we should call them. I would say that at size 10 the world is your oyster for trainer like cycling shoes and spds

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Re: Pedals and big feet in trainers

Postby pwa » 8 Jan 2020, 4:20pm

nez wrote:
pwa wrote:Would these help? Someone asks a question about depth, on this page, and the answer is 55mm. How does that compare?

https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/toe-clips-s ... arge-deep/

When I was using toe clips I found that the shoe itself required careful selection. Some trainers have more excess shoe forward of the toes.

The "ball" of the foot should be over the centre of the pedal when you get it right. And by that I mean the base of the big toe. Most of your foot should be sticking out behind the pedal.


You're right (says size 11) but I think really this bit "The "ball" of the foot should be over the centre of the pedal when you get it right" is much more easily achieved by using modern clip ins/clipless or whatever the hell we should call them. I would say that at size 10 the world is your oyster for trainer like cycling shoes and spds

I take size 10 and I don't remember struggling to get pedals and half clips that would put the ball of the foot over the axle. 10 is a common shoe size.

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Re: Pedals and big feet in trainers

Postby LittleGreyCat » 8 Jan 2020, 4:36pm

I take a very broad shoe (New Balance Size 11 Width 4E) and that seems to fit fine with my bog standard MKS pedals and half toe clips.

However as others have already said it depends more on the shape of the shoe.

The trainers that I use allow my toes to come very close to the front and the ball of my foot to be firmly on the pedal.
When I tried some Berghaus boots (trainer style) the toe of the boot was much further forward relative to my toes and it was impossible to get the balls of my feet on the pedals.
This was an attempt at water proofing, so I bought waterproof socks instead.

So I would investigate trainers which allow your toes to go far forward.
I went partly down the route of looking for spacers (and even fantasising about toe clips on sliding rails) but fortunately found another solution.
Bottom line; you may well have to fit different pedal and toe clip combinations to match individual shoes.

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Re: Pedals and big feet in trainers

Postby Tinpotflowers » 1 Jun 2020, 5:55pm

I found in my box of bits a pair of Mongoose Mountain Bike Pedals
https://www.amazon.com/Mongoose-Mountai ... B071FG54V6
You note that they come with reflectors, this allows me to fit half toe clips. I tried fitting the large version me feet now did suffer cramp but there was a large amount of empty space in front of my foot and they touch the front mudguard. I then tried medium size clips but now I found that my high profile trainers did not fit in the gap offered by the clips and caused my foot to be push back and gave me cramp again.

Can anybody half toe clips that are suitable for high profile trainers.

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Re: Pedals and big feet in trainers

Postby Brucey » 1 Jun 2020, 7:14pm

IME these half clips are quite 'tall'

https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/toe-clips-straps/large-x-large-zefal-strapless-toe-clips/

and allow large-ish shoes to be worn. If these won't do then it may be worth getting a metal set and leaving yourself with the possibility of reshaping them to suit. Problem is that toe clips were/are often made from spring steel which tends to crack when you try and bend it. So proceed with caution...

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