Spokes - best place to buy?

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Re: Spokes - best place to buy?

Postby lescargo » 25 Mar 2020, 9:31pm

Spokes ?
Will pm with phone number of retired Bike shop owner.
I think he still has quite a selection.

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Re: Spokes - best place to buy?

Postby mig » 25 Mar 2020, 10:27pm

upthread on that spokes from ryan site. nipple washers. anyone use them for builds?

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Re: Spokes - best place to buy?

Postby Mick F » 26 Mar 2020, 7:17am

Just paid £11.20 for four packets of ten spokes for the front wheel. I'll have four spare as it's a 36h wheel.
Dunno how good these'll be, but if they're fine, I'll get back to them and order the rear spokes.

I suppose the front wheel isn't under much load, so if they aren't very good, they'll be good enough.

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Re: Spokes - best place to buy?

Postby iandriver » 26 Mar 2020, 8:23am

Hate to say it, but I've ordered my last couple of sets from Germany

https://www.rosebikes.co.uk/dt-swiss-co ... ape=silver £6.70 for 20 DT Swiss competition (need to add postage).

I really don't know whats happening with the distribution model to make them so much more expensive here.
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Re: Spokes - best place to buy?

Postby Mick F » 26 Mar 2020, 8:46am

I was looking at the cost of past wheelbuilds earlier.
Spoke have rocketed up in price.

2006 from Spa for plain plus DB for my 36/32 wheels = £16.10 with £3.00 delivery.
2008 from Spa exactly the same price.

This is 68 spokes is 23p each 2006 and 2008 and they were Sapim and Sapim Strong.

Now, 2020, the cheapest spokes from Spa are 45p each.
Over double the price even for the cheapest they do.
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Re: Spokes - best place to buy?

Postby Brucey » 26 Mar 2020, 8:49am

iandriver wrote:Hate to say it, but I've ordered my last couple of sets from Germany

https://www.rosebikes.co.uk/dt-swiss-co ... ape=silver £6.70 for 20 DT Swiss competition (need to add postage).

I really don't know whats happening with the distribution model to make them so much more expensive here.


me neither.

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Re: Spokes - best place to buy?

Postby Mick F » 26 Mar 2020, 8:56am

iandriver wrote:Hate to say it, but I've ordered my last couple of sets from Germany

https://www.rosebikes.co.uk/dt-swiss-co ... ape=silver £6.70 for 20 DT Swiss competition (need to add postage).
I looked at them during my search, but by the time you add the postage of £8.90 it put me off, knowing that there are bargains out there somewhere.

Hence my thread.
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Re: Spokes - best place to buy?

Postby Brucey » 26 Mar 2020, 9:24am

bargains? Maybe I've missed something but it looks to me that you have turned your nose up at branded DB spokes so that you can buy unbranded PG spokes and thus save something like two quid on a wheelset's worth....? :?: :shock:

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Re: Spokes - best place to buy?

Postby alexnharvey » 26 Mar 2020, 9:59am

Especially bewildering when you could've bought the Sapim plain gauge spokes for less!
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Re: Spokes - best place to buy?

Postby Sweep » 26 Mar 2020, 10:15am

Mick F wrote:
iandriver wrote:Hate to say it, but I've ordered my last couple of sets from Germany

https://www.rosebikes.co.uk/dt-swiss-co ... ape=silver £6.70 for 20 DT Swiss competition (need to add postage).
I looked at them during my search, but by the time you add the postage of £8.90 it put me off, knowing that there are bargains out there somewhere.

Hence my thread.

I know you want these quickly, and maybe not much else mick, but in future, the rose shipping cost can often be offset by buying other stuff, which is cheaper. They also sell lots if stuff which in the mamil obsessed (not spa of course) uk bike market can be very hard to get hold of.
If you sign up to their neweletters once or twice a year they will also send a discount code which actually totally covers the shipping cost.
Their courier service, and info on what's happening, is excellent.
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Re: Spokes - best place to buy?

Postby rjb » 26 Mar 2020, 1:27pm

I've used spokes bought from Spokesave in the past. Recommended on this forum. Maybe they are still trading? Based somewhere in Gloucester if I recall.
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Re: Spokes - best place to buy?

Postby Carlton green » 26 Mar 2020, 2:32pm

Brucey wrote:
Carlton green wrote:….If someone is stuck then, on Brucey’s Stainless Steel Spoke thread, I became more aware of Z ended spokes. Those spooked can be used as easy fit spares and it’s not unknown to build a wheel from them (form longer salvaged spokes). You need a bit of skill to make the Z end and to length too but I’ll be having a go at knocking up some of that type over the next month or two - I suspect that making such spokes would be well within the skill base of the OP.


If you want to shorten and re-use spokes for a new build, best to cut them and rethread them IMHO.

Making good bends is less easy than it looks; it is easy to make a bend that is bad enough that it will limit the fatigue life of the spoke (this is how many of the duff new spokes I have ever seen have gone wrong). In a Z bend spoke you are reliant on two DIY bends rather than one bend of controlled radius made in a factory; this is a recipe for an unreliable wheel IMHO, even if you can stress-relieve the spokes properly in the built wheel (which I doubt).

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Unless I’m mistaken spoke threads are rolled rather than cut and it costs a lot to buy a rolling machine - not a viable option for the home mechanic.

The pitfalls of bending are many and whilst, from past employment and training, I’ve some idea about them the bulk of readers are unlikely too. You’re quite right to point it out. For what it’s worth my own experimental plan included bending around a 2mm radius former.

I don’t want to divert the thread further but would welcome a Brucey started thread about making Z spokes without recourse to specialist pliers or other specialist tools - it’s about cheap, simple and make what you need from scrap material now. Seeing what Z spokes could be used for and what they have been used for in the past would be interesting to me too.

With regard to spoke buying someone questioned whether the commercial model had been broken. I don’t think that it is spokes in particular, I’ve found the same items to be double and more the price from different on-line sellers and real bricks and mortar stores are no better. Anyone got any tips on ways to find the best prices?
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Re: Spokes - best place to buy?

Postby Mick F » 26 Mar 2020, 2:35pm

Brucey wrote:bargains? Maybe I've missed something but it looks to me that you have turned your nose up at branded DB spokes so that you can buy unbranded PG spokes and thus save something like two quid on a wheelset's worth....? :?: :shock:
Tell me where I can buy 40 plain gauge spokes of 298mm for less than £11.20 ................... and free postage.

Who's buying a wheelset's worth?
I've paid for 40 spokes for a 36h front wheel.

The rear wheel can wait of now.
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Re: Spokes - best place to buy?

Postby alexnharvey » 26 Mar 2020, 3:25pm

11.52 for 36 with free postage at spokes from Ryan. I would pay 30p more for Sapim.

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Re: Spokes - best place to buy?

Postby Mick F » 26 Mar 2020, 3:28pm

alexnharvey wrote:11.52 for 36 with free postage at spokes from Ryan. I would pay 30p more for Sapim.
Postage on top?

The rear wheel can wait, as I've said.
Open to ideas and usually PG on the drive side and DP on the non-drive side.

Front wheels don't care.
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