Dawes to stop making the Galaxy due to lack of demand...

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Dawes to stop making the Galaxy due to lack of demand...

Postby Boring_Username » 14 Oct 2020, 12:39pm

Confirmed here for those on Twitter

https://twitter.com/tom_r_allen/status/1316308542245212161

Sad news, perhaps we will have to buy stocks of touring bikes before they stop making them all

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Re: Dawes to stop making the Galaxy due to lack of demand...

Postby Brucey » 14 Oct 2020, 1:15pm

'scrimper' mentioned this a couple of months ago here

https://forum.cyclinguk.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=139808&hilit=galaxy&start=30

end of an era? Or just an inevitable endgame which stems from a basic failure to understand their market? For years Dawes were 'Handbuilt in Britain' and maybe that counted for something, which they lost when they started outsourcing? When you buy a bike with a frame that comes from Vietnam (or somewhere...) it isn't quite the same thing, is it? I know this doesn't stop other brands from selling but when you have traded on this point in the past, it isn't a smart move to go in a different direction...?

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Re: Dawes to stop making the Galaxy due to lack of demand...

Postby Bonefishblues » 14 Oct 2020, 1:35pm

Take Morgan, kept faith with their roots whilst incorporating tech as necessary, so it's very much possible, as Brucey suggests.

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Re: Dawes to stop making the Galaxy due to lack of demand...

Postby Carlton green » 14 Oct 2020, 2:44pm

Is it lack of demand or lack of market dominance? I don’t own a Dawes Galaxy but if decades ago I had had the funds for such a new bike then I’d have bought one, it was the ‘gold standard’ and there wasn’t (to my eyes) that much competition. Come to think of it I did have a second hand Galaxy for a while and it did ride nicely, that was a good three decades plus back in time and I eventually sold the frame (kept the parts) because the frame was far too big for me - really wanted a Galaxy and for it to fit but wishing changed nothing.

Whatever, times have moved on and the ways people purchase have changed too - certainly a move away from the local bike shop. If you have the money then there are now many good alternatives to the Galaxy available to you and some that have no (cost adding) middle man.

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Re: Dawes to stop making the Galaxy due to lack of demand...

Postby Sweep » 14 Oct 2020, 2:50pm

Sad indeed but a sign of the times/march of history I suppose.
Alternatives are available.
Maybe/hopefully the chinese will discover a taste for cycle touring once they have worked through the novelty of finding themselves king of the global materialism game.
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Re: Dawes to stop making the Galaxy due to lack of demand...

Postby rogerzilla » 14 Oct 2020, 2:58pm

The Surly LHT is the standard touring bike now, judging from the number around.

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Re: Dawes to stop making the Galaxy due to lack of demand...

Postby whoof » 14 Oct 2020, 3:25pm

Most people who wanted a Dawes Galaxy had one and kept them for years. The few people who wanted one and didn't have one bought a second hand one from someone (or sometimes a family member of someone) who had stopped cycling/touring due to age/health. This made it a very small market for new Dawes Galaxies.

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Re: Dawes to stop making the Galaxy due to lack of demand...

Postby Jamesh » 14 Oct 2020, 3:30pm

The Dawes galaxy isn't the bike it once was - spa tourers and surly lht have replaced it.

Not is it a gravel bike that can tour on...

Missed opportunity in either direction.

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Re: Dawes to stop making the Galaxy due to lack of demand...

Postby reohn2 » 14 Oct 2020, 3:32pm

TBH IMO Dawes as a company went down in quality some years ago and were living on a name.
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Re: Dawes to stop making the Galaxy due to lack of demand...

Postby Cowsham » 14 Oct 2020, 3:44pm

Why does this seem to happen more rapidly these days -- as soon as the name is established it's milked dry then sold off.

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Re: Dawes to stop making the Galaxy due to lack of demand...

Postby pwa » 14 Oct 2020, 3:51pm

For people in the market for something like a traditional touring bike there have been better alternatives from the likes of Thorn, Spa, etc for a couple of decades or more, so the customers have largely done a bit of research and gone elsewhere. It is as simple as that, really. The last time I was tempted by a Galaxy was in the late 1980s, when they still counted for something. That was a long time ago.

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Re: Dawes to stop making the Galaxy due to lack of demand...

Postby mumbojumbo » 14 Oct 2020, 4:22pm

Dawes were a decent firm but were caught between giants like Trek,Giant and other corporations,and the more boutique providers such as Thorn and Spa.I do not think many people tour innthe accepted sense,with panniers racks and plus-fours.Toiuring bikes are pretty bland and unfashionable,and lookmout of place innthe lycra world.The older tourers are migrating to battery bikes leavuing a few hardy souls sticking it out.

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Re: Dawes to stop making the Galaxy due to lack of demand...

Postby PH » 14 Oct 2020, 5:17pm

pwa wrote:For people in the market for something like a traditional touring bike there have been better alternatives from the likes of Thorn, Spa, etc for a couple of decades or more, so the customers have largely done a bit of research and gone elsewhere.

I largely agree, though I think it likely there were always better options and rather than being the best, the Galaxy was the best most people were likely to be able to afford. The major differences now are peoples increased disposable income, earned or borrowed, and availability. Plus of course the more disposable society we live in - If the customer isn't interested in a bike for life, they're not going to pay a premium for it, doesn't matter how much anyone dislikes that, it is the reality.
I disagree that Dawes somehow got it wrong, I think they've understood the market, they've let the Galaxy fade away and concentrated on fairly low end but profitable products. While some may be sad on a cycling forum, I doubt that's reflected in a shareholders meeting.
Is there a bike manufacturer who makes both bikes at the just above BSO level and also the much higher end? Is anyone going to spend £2,000 on a brand associated with selling £200 bikes? If a manufacturer is hoping to build brand loyalty for when people trade up, there's a limit to how low the entry level can be.

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Re: Dawes to stop making the Galaxy due to lack of demand...

Postby tykeboy2003 » 14 Oct 2020, 5:26pm

pwa wrote:For people in the market for something like a traditional touring bike there have been better alternatives from the likes of Thorn, Spa, etc for a couple of decades or more, so the customers have largely done a bit of research and gone elsewhere. It is as simple as that, really. The last time I was tempted by a Galaxy was in the late 1980s, when they still counted for something. That was a long time ago.


You're probably right there, I bought a new tourer in 2012 and opted for the Edinburgh cycles Revolution Country Explorer after much research on the interweb. In the end it came down to a choice between the Revolution, Galaxy and Ridgeback. The Revolution looked like better value for money. They too are no longer made.

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Re: Dawes to stop making the Galaxy due to lack of demand...

Postby simonhill » 14 Oct 2020, 5:44pm

Sweep wrote:Sad indeed but a sign of the times/march of history I suppose.
Alternatives are available.
Maybe/hopefully the chinese will discover a taste for cycle touring once they have worked through the novelty of finding themselves king of the global materialism game.


A couple of years ago, I met a French (well New Caledonia residents) couple somewhere in SE Asia. They were riding very nice Chinese touring bikes - I called them Surly-alikes at the time. Bought in Kunming from someone who specialised in this rather niche market. I could see them trickling down to the richer Asian countries, but then again if they have the cash, then bikes like Surly have more caché.