Another Raleigh Superbe restoration-weekend ride
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Another Raleigh Superbe restoration-weekend ride
After seeing viewtopic.php?f=5&t=145073 , not wanting to hijack it and hankering after an esquire or similar while enjoying the progress of the thread I also found this video
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Manuals here
https://www.kurtkaminer.com/TH_raleigh_sp_1.htm
A knowledgeable forum member very kindly offered me two projects.
A longer term pre war project and a 1950's complete bicycle which required some fettling and an oily rag restoration.
As advised the transfers and patina are such that it would be a shame to paint over them as a certain charm.
After some consideration the bicycle was in amazing condition so I serviced it and bought some tyres, not sure I'm set on white wall tyres and they are Raleigh record so not the best - but locally £13.99 each v £42 each for marathons and it's a reversible modification.
With help of my partner, son and stepdad the target was to have it serviced and riding for a test ride on this Sunday so a Saturday until midnight fettling.
After stripping the old tyres, tubes and rim tape, I had quite an issue getting Raleigh record bead correct centred and tyres round- spent an hour getting it right.
Tyre slime fitted as don't want roadside repairs if possible as quite involved removing wheels.
It has a five speed hub conversion that the forum member had fitted- had 20mph out of it so far.
So this thread is a thank you to him for his kindness and generosity- and to show that a quality bike can provide fun project and be reliable.
And
Manuals here
https://www.kurtkaminer.com/TH_raleigh_sp_1.htm
A knowledgeable forum member very kindly offered me two projects.
A longer term pre war project and a 1950's complete bicycle which required some fettling and an oily rag restoration.
As advised the transfers and patina are such that it would be a shame to paint over them as a certain charm.
After some consideration the bicycle was in amazing condition so I serviced it and bought some tyres, not sure I'm set on white wall tyres and they are Raleigh record so not the best - but locally £13.99 each v £42 each for marathons and it's a reversible modification.
With help of my partner, son and stepdad the target was to have it serviced and riding for a test ride on this Sunday so a Saturday until midnight fettling.
After stripping the old tyres, tubes and rim tape, I had quite an issue getting Raleigh record bead correct centred and tyres round- spent an hour getting it right.
Tyre slime fitted as don't want roadside repairs if possible as quite involved removing wheels.
It has a five speed hub conversion that the forum member had fitted- had 20mph out of it so far.
So this thread is a thank you to him for his kindness and generosity- and to show that a quality bike can provide fun project and be reliable.
Last edited by ClappedOut on 9 May 2021, 11:51pm, edited 3 times in total.
Re: Another Raleigh Superbe restoration-weekend ride
Looks good, wishing you many happy miles on it.
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Re: Another Raleigh Superbe restoration-weekend ride
After scratching my head for a cheap mudflap as all I found was £25 Raleigh chopper flap etc on ebay-I found that SJS in my lunch hour listed a brompton one for £4.99.
So it has a leather look one side and carbon fibre type look the other, fitting bracket and bolts included.
flattened the bracket and cut in half, some contact adhesive and new hole and it fits nicely without being a dirt trap and reversible as kept original rivets etc.
Result
So it has a leather look one side and carbon fibre type look the other, fitting bracket and bolts included.
flattened the bracket and cut in half, some contact adhesive and new hole and it fits nicely without being a dirt trap and reversible as kept original rivets etc.
Result
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Re: Another Raleigh Superbe restoration-weekend ride
Having sold a few things this week I’m thinking about the pre war frame.
I bought a set of handle bars and rod brakes on eBay with nice chrome and a saddle on this forum as it seemed a deal- so that’s me spent for a day or two.
I’m thinking that from what I can see a professional stove enamel and oven baked is going to be from £90-110 plus any prep and postage.
Now the rod brake mounts possibly will scuff paint, I have many many years ago sprayed two pack and cellulose paints.
I have been researching tractor enamel and it seems that it can be thinned and sprayed, although I’m not too sure on curing times- I wondered if painted in hotter weather and cooked in a metal garage it would be suitable as you don’t see vintage tractors being touched in once painted.
Or there is acrylic stove enamel as something I have heard little about as well, guessing less durable.
I bought a set of handle bars and rod brakes on eBay with nice chrome and a saddle on this forum as it seemed a deal- so that’s me spent for a day or two.
I’m thinking that from what I can see a professional stove enamel and oven baked is going to be from £90-110 plus any prep and postage.
Now the rod brake mounts possibly will scuff paint, I have many many years ago sprayed two pack and cellulose paints.
I have been researching tractor enamel and it seems that it can be thinned and sprayed, although I’m not too sure on curing times- I wondered if painted in hotter weather and cooked in a metal garage it would be suitable as you don’t see vintage tractors being touched in once painted.
Or there is acrylic stove enamel as something I have heard little about as well, guessing less durable.
Re: Another Raleigh Superbe restoration-weekend ride
Apologies for the belated reply, nice work on the bike there. I hope these things are as reliable as the legends say since I plan to keeping my one. Are you going to post the progress of the pre-war in this thread as well? Will we see some pictures as you go along?
Can't help you with the paint, I'm kinda experimenting myself... Have you had a look into Combicolor by Rustoleum? Same stuff I plan on using. It's a urethane-modified alkyd. Not much info out there but from what I gather it's a hybrid paint, supposed to be a tough industrial grade stuff. It's garnered a cult following of sorts amongst van and camper enthusiasts. Guys roller their cars and vans with it. It's supposedly got really good anti-sag and self-evening properties... They've got mega-threads devoted to this stuff on their forums.
Can't help you with the paint, I'm kinda experimenting myself... Have you had a look into Combicolor by Rustoleum? Same stuff I plan on using. It's a urethane-modified alkyd. Not much info out there but from what I gather it's a hybrid paint, supposed to be a tough industrial grade stuff. It's garnered a cult following of sorts amongst van and camper enthusiasts. Guys roller their cars and vans with it. It's supposedly got really good anti-sag and self-evening properties... They've got mega-threads devoted to this stuff on their forums.
Re: Another Raleigh Superbe restoration-weekend ride
I don't know if you've worked on rod brakes before, but there's a good primer video about them with a lot of of practical information, on 'Velocipedium's' youtube channel. A large part of this channel's content relates to Raleigh Superbes & 3 speed bike restorations in general, well worth watching.ClappedOut wrote: ↑16 May 2021, 10:11pm I bought a set of handle bars and rod brakes on eBay with nice chrome and a saddle on this forum as it seemed a deal- so that’s me spent for a day or two.
Edit ; second link to initial rod-brake installation and set-up video added.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLiL4crstVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1jqtFfZYBE
Have fun !
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Re: Another Raleigh Superbe restoration-weekend ride
Cheers will slowly post the pre war bicycle refurbishment.
Rod brakes yes had a play and thank you for links.
Regards Raleigh Superbe reliability, I think that a lube and bit of care they are great.
The oily rag restoration I watched an anvil being beeswaxed against rust, I did wonder if this was a safe method for the 1950’s bike that has provided some tinkering and enjoyable riding.
My stepdad also enjoys the relaxed comfortable ride on it, getting it regularly used
Now I have figured how to post a picture on this forum I will slowly strip the pre war bike and work towards a rebuild.
Rod brakes yes had a play and thank you for links.
Regards Raleigh Superbe reliability, I think that a lube and bit of care they are great.
The oily rag restoration I watched an anvil being beeswaxed against rust, I did wonder if this was a safe method for the 1950’s bike that has provided some tinkering and enjoyable riding.
My stepdad also enjoys the relaxed comfortable ride on it, getting it regularly used
Now I have figured how to post a picture on this forum I will slowly strip the pre war bike and work towards a rebuild.
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Re: Another Raleigh Superbe restoration-weekend ride
These as part of my pre war resto, not perfect-but pretty good.
Re: Another Raleigh Superbe restoration-weekend ride
Those are excellent! Mine are really bad by comparison but I won't be replacing them.
As for beeswax coating, freaky how you mention it. I was watching a video of the subject last week and the same exact though popped into my mind. Only problems I can see is that there will be residue and will rub on clothing, and applying heat will de-temper the frame and forks... Don't know how big of an issue that would be. I still want to try it some day though...
As for beeswax coating, freaky how you mention it. I was watching a video of the subject last week and the same exact though popped into my mind. Only problems I can see is that there will be residue and will rub on clothing, and applying heat will de-temper the frame and forks... Don't know how big of an issue that would be. I still want to try it some day though...
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Re: Another Raleigh Superbe restoration-weekend ride
Today we stripped rest of frame and carefully stored the parts in plastic tubs.
Quite a few bolts were already rounded and none of the six side imperial sockets would fit, so it will be replacements after acquiring a suitable thread gauge at some point.
Managed to get the lock rings undone and removed the handle bars, forks etc.
Currently two stopping points are
1) chainring side cup solid and looks like prior efforts to move.
2) bottom bracket oiler missing cover- uncertain if it is threaded or press fit- don’t want to touch unless a spare available.
Quite a few bolts were already rounded and none of the six side imperial sockets would fit, so it will be replacements after acquiring a suitable thread gauge at some point.
Managed to get the lock rings undone and removed the handle bars, forks etc.
Currently two stopping points are
1) chainring side cup solid and looks like prior efforts to move.
2) bottom bracket oiler missing cover- uncertain if it is threaded or press fit- don’t want to touch unless a spare available.
Re: Another Raleigh Superbe restoration-weekend ride
I believe the oiler is press fit. I've stripped 2 raleighs thus far and both were press fit. both were from the late 50's. First one was from 1958. At the time I wasn't aware that these old raleighs had oiler ports and the area was packed with dirt and girme so I went at it with a screwdriver to get it all out. Unfortunately I snapped off the oiler cap in the process. Luckily for you I have kept the cap!
I reckon you could silver solder it back on easily.
If you like, I can post it to you free of charge. Just pm me your address.
I reckon you could silver solder it back on easily.
If you like, I can post it to you free of charge. Just pm me your address.
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Re: Another Raleigh Superbe restoration-weekend ride
Awesome thank you, will PMKrashper wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 1:11pm I believe the oiler is press fit. I've stripped 2 raleighs thus far and both were press fit. both were from the late 50's. First one was from 1958. At the time I wasn't aware that these old raleighs had oiler ports and the area was packed with dirt and girme so I went at it with a screwdriver to get it all out. Unfortunately I snapped off the oiler cap in the process. Luckily for you I have kept the cap!
I reckon you could silver solder it back on easily.
If you like, I can post it to you free of charge. Just pm me your address.