Clone Brooks saddles

[ClappedOut]

Having several I agree the real macoy the way forward for known reliability.
However I cannot see the leather sold as a spare and a complete clone is £12.95, so it got me thinking is the leather really that terrible and a beyond repair leather Brooks donating it's metal work?

I understand a good second hand Brooks better all round, just £12.95 not a large sum and I'm not trying to pass a clone as a Brooks.

[alexnharvey]

When I contacted Brooks recently they informed me that they no longer offer a leather replacement service so maybe not supplying the leather is part of that policy. It's very unfortunate.

I think the leather itself is the most important part of the saddle and the frame is relatively unimportant. I am also not sure if any clone is a close enough copy that it will fit on the brooks frame? If you have a complete clone that is comfortable enough what benefit do you expect to achieve from swapping the leather onto a new frame, if it even fits?

[ClappedOut]

When I contacted Brooks recently they informed me that they no longer offer a leather replacement service so maybe not supplying the leather is part of that policy. It's very unfortunate.

I think the leather itself is the most important part of the saddle and the frame is relatively unimportant. I am also not sure if any clone is a close enough copy that it will fit on the brooks frame? If you have a complete clone that is comfortable enough what benefit do you expect to achieve from swapping the leather onto a new frame, if it even fits?

Three nuts and it swaps over, I just thought as the springs on the written off Brooks look stronger

https://www.pedalpro.com/pedalpro-class ... addle.html

Or

https://www.amazon.co.uk/N-C-Genuine-Le ... NrPXRydWU=

I know the selle Italia are £49-54 new so it gives an idea of better brands as well.

Just thought it was a cheap fix

[alexnharvey]

Sorry, I thought you were talking about taking the rivets out and swapping the leather which would be a lot of work for very little gain.

I once installed large copper hand hammered rivets on a brook that previously had small steel rivets. It was especially tricky peening the nose ones because access is tight.

[jb]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/N-C-Genuine-Le ... NrPXRydWU=

I think it needs more springs!

[ClappedOut]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/N-C-Genuine-Le ... NrPXRydWU=

I think it needs more springs!

Lol its a B135 or B190 clone

[NickJP]

Berthoud sell all the individual parts of their leather saddles as spares: https://berthoudcycles.fr/en/128-spare- ... ccessories.

In the dim distant past, I used to ride Brooks B17s, but I've found that the Berthoud Aubisque/Vars saddles are (for me) the most comfortable I've come across.

There's an interesting video on the manufacture of the saddles here:

[tatanab]

Berthoud sell all the individual parts of their leather saddles as spares: https://berthoudcycles.fr/en/128-spare- ... ccessories.

In the dim distant past, I used to ride Brooks B17s, but I've found that the Berthoud Aubisque/Vars saddles are (for me) the most comfortable I've come across.

Agreed. I tried an Aspin (just about bottom of the range) in 2012 and now I have 5 of them. They suit me straight from the box. Pre Brexit I bought some spare parts directly from the shop/factory and service was excellent. They tend to have a display at the Semaine Federale. In recent years I loaned to 2 club mates who have also liked them and bought them.

[Nessie23]

Berthoud sell all the individual parts of their leather saddles as spares: https://berthoudcycles.fr/en/128-spare- ... ccessories.

In the dim distant past, I used to ride Brooks B17s, but I've found that the Berthoud Aubisque/Vars saddles are (for me) the most comfortable I've come across.

There's an interesting video on the manufacture of the saddles here:

Love the video. I have just purchased a Selle Italia Leather saddle (attracting a bit of discussion on this thread viewtopic.php?f=1&t=138830) and was wondering about the production process.

[markjohnobrien]

When I contacted Brooks recently they informed me that they no longer offer a leather replacement service so maybe not supplying the leather is part of that policy. It's very unfortunate.

I think the leather itself is the most important part of the saddle and the frame is relatively unimportant. I am also not sure if any clone is a close enough copy that it will fit on the brooks frame? If you have a complete clone that is comfortable enough what benefit do you expect to achieve from swapping the leather onto a new frame, if it even fits?

That’s insane as leather top replacement was part of the essential Brooks service: I bought a B17 titanium second hand for a good price and Brooks fitted a new Brooks select (organic and supposedly harder wearing and longer lasting) top. Looked great when returned - not used yet- but disappointed that the service is no longer offered.

[pete75]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/N-C-Genuine-Le ... NrPXRydWU=

I think it needs more springs!

That's a Gyes saddle. They produce a large range of leather saddles. Spa and Velo Orange saddles are rebadged Gyes.

http://www.gyes.com.tw/saddle.html