landsurfer wrote:The Jamis and SPA frame have the same pump mount, in the same place on the rear of the headstock ...
Maybe I was out on the percentiles!
My Spa doesn't have a pump mount - which Spa model is yours?
landsurfer wrote:The Jamis and SPA frame have the same pump mount, in the same place on the rear of the headstock ...
fastpedaller wrote:landsurfer wrote:The Jamis and SPA frame have the same pump mount, in the same place on the rear of the headstock ...
Maybe I was out on the percentiles!
My Spa doesn't have a pump mount - which Spa model is yours?
fastpedaller wrote:landsurfer wrote:The Jamis and SPA frame have the same pump mount, in the same place on the rear of the headstock ...
Maybe I was out on the percentiles!
My Spa doesn't have a pump mount - which Spa model is yours?
I want my bikes designed by a master craftsman and constructed by a competent engineer.
bigjim wrote:I want my bikes designed by a master craftsman and constructed by a competent engineer.
I'm a bit on the fence with this. I don't know whether the handbuilt thing, finishing it off with a file etc, brazing by eye and touch, is especially the right thing. Or is far Eastern frame produced on high tech, CNC machines with minute clearances and perfect robotic Laser welds a far safer bet in producing a quality product. Remember those unreliable, oil leaking, hand built BSA and Triumph motorcycles, that were trounced by oil tight, high revving, computer built Japanese machines.
Bonefishblues wrote:bigjim wrote:I want my bikes designed by a master craftsman and constructed by a competent engineer.
I'm a bit on the fence with this. I don't know whether the handbuilt thing, finishing it off with a file etc, brazing by eye and touch, is especially the right thing. Or is far Eastern frame produced on high tech, CNC machines with minute clearances and perfect robotic Laser welds a far safer bet in producing a quality product. Remember those unreliable, oil leaking, hand built BSA and Triumph motorcycles, that were trounced by oil tight, high revving, computer built Japanese machines.
If the Far East are able to design and deliver bespoke, or tailored options for mass-produced prices, or close to, the industry would change fundamentally. It can't be far away if training shoes can be bespoked already.
Bmblbzzz wrote:Bonefishblues wrote:bigjim wrote:I'm a bit on the fence with this. I don't know whether the handbuilt thing, finishing it off with a file etc, brazing by eye and touch, is especially the right thing. Or is far Eastern frame produced on high tech, CNC machines with minute clearances and perfect robotic Laser welds a far safer bet in producing a quality product. Remember those unreliable, oil leaking, hand built BSA and Triumph motorcycles, that were trounced by oil tight, high revving, computer built Japanese machines.
If the Far East are able to design and deliver bespoke, or tailored options for mass-produced prices, or close to, the industry would change fundamentally. It can't be far away if training shoes can be bespoked already.
There was a firm, at least one, doing this with titanium frames from China. Designed to your spec, you signed off the CAD drawings, they built yours and shipped it to you. XCDA or something like that.
Bonefishblues wrote:Bmblbzzz wrote:Bonefishblues wrote:If the Far East are able to design and deliver bespoke, or tailored options for mass-produced prices, or close to, the industry would change fundamentally. It can't be far away if training shoes can be bespoked already.
There was a firm, at least one, doing this with titanium frames from China. Designed to your spec, you signed off the CAD drawings, they built yours and shipped it to you. XCDA or something like that.
Yes, I know, but the onus is rather more on the cyclist than I'm envisaging. Imagine a service like ordering a bespoke suit where the customer takes some measurements, answers some questions, and in time receives his or her custom bike. No fuss, no faff. I could see that being very attractive to many if the price was right.
bigjim wrote: Remember those unreliable, oil leaking, hand built BSA and Triumph motorcycles, that were trounced by oil tight, high revving, computer built Japanese machines.