Ontherivet77 wrote:Freddie I take your point that the tourer is the best all rounder for all types of riding.
I agree and sorta disagree with this. Most (but not all) touring bikes, my old one included, are not concerned with weight. I'm not trying to say they're extremely heavy beasts but most tourers are more concerned with things such as reliability, comfort and durability. My tourer was built around these things and it was a little portly. It was a good workout though when I went on runs with others who weren't on tourers. I knew I was pedaling more weight on hills and flats. It was extremely useful and well suited for commuting and touring and such things but it was harder work when I wanted to do 15mph or so with others.
[/quote]Hence the comparison between audax and race bike to see if it's worth having 2 bikes. [/quote]
Of course I'm biased because I got rid of all my bikes and built a Thorn MK3 up over Christmas. It's great for 'club run' type rides. The longest ride I've done so far on it is 40 miles and it was comfy. I use it for commuting and carry two panniers with laptop and other work things and it handles well though maybe slightly more twitchy than my old tourer. I have geared it for being an all rounder though with a 48/36/26 chainset and 11-32 cassette.
I think if you want to have one bike instead of two then I'd go for an Audax but maybe with gearing that's specific to your fitness. And if you want to do some long distance, heavy laden touring then I'm being converted by Mick to trailers. That and pulling my son in one recently.