531colin wrote:horizon wrote:............
But to answer colin531's point: I also felt (like cycle tramp) that KOPS might come later..................
OK...if KOPS comes later, that means either there is something more important than getting the saddle set right in relationship to the pedals, or there is a better way of doing it....could you share your thoughts with us?
I'm not saying that KOPS is a magic bullet, but I don't see any point in knocking KOPS if you are not going to replace it with something better.
I'm not knocking KOPS (or any rules of thumb etc). I was saying that the OP just needed to wiggle everything about a bit and not overdo the high gears. My impression was that he felt that his pain and discomfort would be cured by applying a formula but IMV no perfect fit was going to help him until he had got himself comfortable. I'm no expert on this but someone thrashing out a 17 mile commute in cold weather in cleats on drops that he isn't used to has easier options to explore first (like easing off!). I do believe strongly in getting it right however, of which KOPS etc are a part.