Re: What Newbie Tourer for £600?
Posted: 20 May 2013, 11:45pm
belgiangoth wrote:531colin wrote:whats your saddle to pedal measurement that can't be accommodated by a 60cm frame?
come on colin, you know better than that - one measurement is not enough. Some people like large frames, some don't. I had someone 4" shorter than me ride my bike, he thought it was far too big for him and I think it's far too small for me. Sure, you can make bikes work with raised stems and seatposts, but that doesn't mean the bike fits.
With off-the-peg frames, one measurement is all you get.
I could turn your argument back on you, you say some like large frames, what do they mean by large frames?....do they want tall frames or long frames?
Most people who say they like large frames are people of my generation ( ) who have a fashion requirement for a tall frame with a horizontal top tube. Whatever happened to Freddie, who used to come on here and say "buy the biggest frame you can get your leg over"....I kinda miss him!
Back in the real world, I'm talking about production frames, and the trick is to make them as near as possible universally acceptable. So you have a sloping top tube, so theres plenty of clearance for folk that are bothered about that, and so you can get the bars relatively high for the "size" of the bike, but it can't be too sloped because some like their bars below their saddle, and steep slopes offend the traditionalists who actually wanted a horizontal top tube. Then you make sure the steerer is nice and long, and you have a range of bikes that will fit the huge majority of customers, with the usual trade-off between handlebar height and reach for somebody who could have either of 2 sizes.
Sure, no production series is going to satisfy everybody's aesthetic and fashion requirements, what with some not liking big stacks of spacers, some really wanting a 60s bike, let alone the occasional customer who could really do with a long or short top tube.....but you can fit the huge majority of customers.