10 Speed Shimergo

[Colin Stanley]

I have tried to search on this but without success.
Is it possible to have a 10 speed Shimano rear cassette and long cage rear mech (so as to give a really low bottom gear) and a triple front chainset with whatever mech, operated by Campag Ergo levers?
I might be getting a 10 speed Shimano setup and triple rings and am worried that as I will still continue to use Campag Ergo on my other bikes, I might operate the brake(?) gear levers the wrong way and therefore shift in the wrong direction.
Can anyone advise please?

[RRSODL]

No, you can't but you can get a 9 speed cassette with 11 speeds Campy shifters.

[rjb]

Yes you can. 11 speed campag shifters with a shimano rear mech and cassette with the hubbub mod to the cable clamp on the rear mech. have a read of the Shimergo article linked to here - http://www.ctc.org.uk/cyclists-library/ ... s/shimergo.

[Colin Stanley]

Thanks rjb. Looks like a bit of heavy reading...
Will do my best to wade through it.

[pete75]

Thanks rjb. Looks like a bit of heavy reading...
Will do my best to wade through it.

You don't need to read through it all. You just need 11 speed Ergos and this cable attachment

[RRSODL]

Yes you can. 11 speed campag shifters with a shimano rear mech and cassette with the hubbub mod to the cable clamp on the rear mech. have a read of the Shimergo article linked to here - http://www.ctc.org.uk/cyclists-library/ ... s/shimergo.

Oh yes, I complete forgot about it . I did try with the 10 speed shifter and 9 speed cassette but it never workee very well so I settled for 8 speed cassette standard cable attachment.

There is however a little device called shift mate or something like that that takes care of the problem and I'm told it works very well.

[pete75]

Yes you can. 11 speed campag shifters with a shimano rear mech and cassette with the hubbub mod to the cable clamp on the rear mech. have a read of the Shimergo article linked to here - http://www.ctc.org.uk/cyclists-library/ ... s/shimergo.

Oh yes, I complete forgot about it . I did try with the 10 speed shifter and 9 speed cassette but it never work very well so I settled for 8 speed cassette and standard wire attachment.

There is however a little device called shift mate or something like that that takes care of the problem and I'm told it works very well.

I'm running the so called hubbub mod with 10 speed Centaur Ergo, 10 speed 105 rear dérailleur and 9 speed cassette and it all works very well. What components did you use?

[RRSODL]

105 and Veloce Ergo shifters.

[mattsccm]

Depends on how fussy you are. I use both very early and 2015 shifters with an unknown age Comp triple mech. Cassette is a 10 speed SRAM so shimano spacing . works fine. Better with some wear in the top jockey wheel.

[Colin Stanley]

Thanks rjb. Looks like a bit of heavy reading...
Will do my best to wade through it.

You don't need to read through it all. You just need 11 speed Ergos and this cable attachment

So the bike would need a long cage Shimano rear mech with a wide ratio 10 speed Shimano cassette with the cable clamped as in the pic married to 11 speed Campag Ergo levers.
It sounds too simple

[cycleruk]

Be careful on which Shimano rear mech' you choose.
Some now are different and don't match like they used too.
ie:- All Shimano rear mechs used to work with all shifters as they had the same "pull".
That included road and MTB mech's untill 10 speed MTB ones came on the scene.
So all road mech's upto and including 10 speed and all MTB mech's upto and including 9 speed have the same pull ratio.
11 speed, I have no idea about them.

[Colin Stanley]

I have just looked on ShiftMate website and the link to SJS for the compatability guide. It appears possible to have a ShiftMate model 3 which would allow 10 speed Campag Ergo levers with 10 speed Shimano rear mech and Shimano cassette.

That is fine for the rear mech, but I have forgotten about the front.

On my current bike I still use a 9 speed Ergo system which allows the front mech to be inched a bit to ensure no chain rub.

Does any one know if this is still possible with 10 and 11 speed Ergo levers?

In other words can I still use a Campag (or Shimano?) front mech with 10 or 11 speed Ergos?

I am not looking to mod my current bike, I am trying to sort out a spec for a new tandem so that I can still use the logic of the Ergo lever operation as I feel I am bound to make gear shift mistakes when chatting to 'er indoors behind.

[De Sisti]

What does work is:
Campag 10s levers, Campag front/rear mech (9 or 10s for me), 9s Shimano (compatible) hub/cassette.

I have this combo on my three bikes and it works flawlessly.

I'm sticking with 9s as long as possible, as I think 9s components will be around for some time to come.
Campag 10s levers are repairable and still being sold.

[pete75]

I have just looked on ShiftMate website and the link to SJS for the compatability guide. It appears possible to have a ShiftMate model 3 which would allow 10 speed Campag Ergo levers with 10 speed Shimano rear mech and Shimano cassette.

That is fine for the rear mech, but I have forgotten about the front.

On my current bike I still use a 9 speed Ergo system which allows the front mech to be inched a bit to ensure no chain rub.

Does any one know if this is still possible with 10 and 11 speed Ergo levers?

In other words can I still use a Campag (or Shimano?) front mech with 10 or 11 speed Ergos?

I am not looking to mod my current bike, I am trying to sort out a spec for a new tandem so that I can still use the logic of the Ergo lever operation as I feel I am bound to make gear shift mistakes when chatting to 'er indoors behind.

Yes I have 10 speed centaur ergos, centaur front on a triple, 10 speed 105 on the back with 9 speed cassette. It all works flawlessly.