No, it wasn't. Try reading my post.Jdsk wrote: ↑10 Nov 2021, 6:34pmMost common vowel sound in English:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwa
But I now understand that the criticism was of separated consonants.
English Language - what "Does your head in" ??
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You are very welcome, Mike!
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Thank you! I may lack detailed knowledge of phonetics, but I'm glad that my simple post was of use to someone!Mike Sales wrote: ↑10 Nov 2021, 6:30pmThe exact sound probably depends on the speaker's accent, but I think Mattheus made the point quite adequately.
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Help, please... the difference between those includes a difference in separation of consonants... in one there's a vowel sound between the g and the l, and in the other there isn't.
Thanks
Jonathan
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I think we have a consensus on how to say the common English word "burglary".
I - for one- am done with the topic
I - for one- am done with the topic
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"Specificity".
We'll always be together, together on electric bikes.
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Too vague...
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"It's specifically, with an s":
Jonathan
Jonathan
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It's hard to say. I think it's the only word I can think of, like it. Maybe others don't struggle with it but it's ludicrous to me.
We'll always be together, together on electric bikes.
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Thanks.
If I look at both for a few minutes it has the same effect.
Jonathan
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That word I can at least say but for some reason I have trouble with the word "celebrity". I want to say "cel-leb-ber-rat-y"
Or "cel-leb-er-rit-tary" and have to think carefully before I say the word. I'm not the only one either -- I hear tv presenters saying it all sorts of daft ways.
I am here. Where are you?
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Sounds like another example of a word being easier to pronounce if the consonants are separated... -leb- -er- -a- rather than -le- -bra-.Cowsham wrote: ↑12 Nov 2021, 10:55am That word I can at least say but for some reason I have trouble with the word "celebrity". I want to say "cel-leb-ber-rat-y"
Or "cel-leb-er-rit-tary" and have to think carefully before I say the word. I'm not the only one either -- I hear tv presenters saying it all sorts of daft ways.
Jonathan
PS: Spot the schwa! : - )
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Somebody once told me that all consonants are separated by vowels in Japanese (and if you can find an exception eg Datsun, it's because some Japanese consonants need two when represented in Roman script.)
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Simple really.Cowsham wrote: ↑12 Nov 2021, 10:55am ............... for some reason I have trouble with the word "celebrity". I want to say "cel-leb-ber-rat-y"
Or "cel-leb-er-rit-tary" and have to think carefully before I say the word. I'm not the only one either -- I hear tv presenters saying it all sorts of daft ways.
Sell-ebb ritty.
Mick F. Cornwall