Re: Here's a puzzle for you...
Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 3:37pm
Thought it was only fair to warn you pete - this appears to be a hobby of his...
Jochta - yes he's serious.
Jochta - yes he's serious.
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ddraver wrote:Thought it was only fair to warn you pete - this appears to be a hobby of his...
Jochta - yes he's serious.
jochta wrote:Can't tell if you're being serious or not.
You wouldn't notice the Earth's bulge, the difference is a tiny fraction.
jochta wrote:The human eye couldn't discern it.
jochta wrote:Jupiter is obviously oblate to the naked-eye as the difference between it's polar and equatorial circumferences is much larger.
You can see the ISS and other satellites from the ground pretty much any night of the year. It's a fairly simple task to photograph the ISS to prove it's real and a simple task to photograph it from two or more locations to triangulate it's altitude and position.
How would you triangulate the position of something like that if you don't know its size?
Manc33 wrote:You can't take your own, I am talking about the whole Earth in the frame, proving there's a craft far out enough to photograph it that way. Same with videos, I don't want close ups - I want the full Earth in the frame, turning, filmed for at least 6 hours, then speeded up so we can see the changing cloud formations.
Manc33 wrote:They could be floating a model around up there, telling you it is 300 feet wide (not 30 feet wide) and making you think it is ten times further away. Same with the sun, they say we can triangulate it and work out how far away the sun is - how when no one knows how big it is?
jochta wrote:What's the size of the object got to do with it?
jochta wrote:You calculate the position of the object from different locations with reference to a fixed background object (like a star), parallax will mean it will appear in a different place in the sky from each location. It's then a simple calculation to work out the distance to the object.
jochta wrote:But I guess you think the stars are fake or painted onto a black ceiling or something equally ridiculous so there's not much point arguing with you. Or maybe maths is all made up
No problems! Last month at our local astro soc. meeting, we had a guest speaker who could well have been blood-brother to Mr/Ms Manc33. He came to speak about crop circles, which at first sight sounds a weird topic to inflame the passions of a bunch of amateur astros like us lot ... until you realise that many folks believe crop circles are the work of visiting aliens from outer space. Anyway - all good fun!ddraver wrote:Thought it was only fair to warn you pete - this appears to be a hobby of his...
Jochta - yes he's serious.
Manc33 wrote:This guy debunks "Ten reasons the Earth is round" pretty easily...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWdjOlJRRJo
Conspiracy theories are, like religion a matter of blind faith. Trying to defeat them by logic and common sense is about as much use as discussing religion with a suicide bomber who has his finger on the button.