Bike rack how to tie on / secure bikes

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Bike rack how to tie on / secure bikes

Postby Emmett2018 » 6 Jun 2020, 9:40am

Family has all got bikes now, so fancied an impromptu day out. someone's selling a car bike rack near me that has all the straps to put on the car put the bar has three sponge bits for the bike frames to rest on but nothing else to secure them to the forks on the rack. What do people use or should the rack have extra straps to tie the bikes on? I've seen a few like this and not sure as we've never used a bike rack before. Thanks

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Re: Bike rack how to tie on / secure bikes

Postby Emmett2018 » 6 Jun 2020, 9:46am

https://oypla.com/sports-leisure/outdoo ... Z8EALw_wcB

For reference it would be abit like the above, bungee cords?

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Postby Paulatic » 6 Jun 2020, 10:19am

Emmett2018 wrote:https://oypla.com/sports-leisure/outdoor-sports/universal-2-bike-bicycle-hatchback-car-mount-rack-stand-carrier?gclid=Cj0KCQjw_ez2BRCyARIsAJfg-kteDu02tVOsoL8o76OVEb7RRxsldjnqfXz7J08CoGtHabUUFD39sS4aAuZ8EALw_wcB

For reference it would be abit like the above, bungee cords?

Looks a bit grim for anything you value. A ratchet strap should hold firmer than a bungee but there’s going to be a lot of grinding and bumping together.
Something like this holds them well and at least tries to separate them.
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Re: Bike rack how to tie on / secure bikes

Postby reohn2 » 6 Jun 2020, 10:24am

Would NOT use bungee cords.
These will work fine:- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Premium-Tie-Do ... MVMZTXV1YC

They are similar to the ones on my Thule rack but about half the price.

I would also be very careful to securely fix such a rack to your car,there are a lot of stresses on that type of rack when loaded particularly when cornering and at speed.
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Re: Bike rack how to tie on / secure bikes

Postby Clouded Leopard » 6 Jun 2020, 11:00am

I use the Thule Ride On 3 Tow Ball Mounted. In addition to the Thule supplied straps us two additional straps to really secure the cycle(s). Downside is of course you need the towing kit on your car.
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Postby Emmett2018 » 6 Jun 2020, 12:10pm

Thanks guys that's useful!

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Postby mjr » 6 Jun 2020, 12:54pm

I use cam buckle straps and toe straps.

With the design shown, please take care that the rack rests on and secures to metal parts of the car back, not plastic bumpers or the back window else it can crack the glass or plastic and drop the bikes in an emergency stop. Also, if the bikes obscure the number plate or compulsory brake lights then it needs a lighting board on the back too, which can be a hidden expense of up to £100 if you've not got the socket in the boot already.
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Re: Bike rack how to tie on / secure bikes

Postby Halla » 7 Jun 2020, 2:49pm

Before committing to a bike rack, it is worth checking that the carrying vehicle is capable of carrying the load.

Best to check the combined weight of the bikes and compare to the carrying capacity.

The law was changed a few years ago and there should be advice in your handbook as well as the bike rack manufacturers manual.

Agree in a lot of cases you will need a number plate and lighting board.

I have seen some horrors recently, tiny cars with far too many bikes.

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Postby chris_suffolk » 14 Jul 2020, 7:42pm

May be out of your price bracket, but I've got a Saris Gran Fondo rack, and can highly recommend them.

https://www.bikeradar.com/reviews/accessories/bike-racks/saris-gran-fondo-2-bike-rack-review/

Bike hangs vertially on the back of the car - doesn't obstruct lights or number plate, so legal straight off. Claim to fit all cars. If you have plastic trim on the rear of the car, rather than metal, then they attach with a set of 'dumb bell' type fittings which go inside the boot. Only carry two bikes though.

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Postby Cyril Haearn » 14 Jul 2020, 9:49pm

Halla wrote:..
I have seen some horrors recently, tiny cars with far too many bikes.

Or cycles lying on the motorway having fallen off
External cycle racks are just too dodgy and dangerous, straps could break, one might forget to tighten them, they work loose at speed etc etc
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Postby mattsccm » 15 Jul 2020, 11:25am

I think that's a bit extreme. Breakage would be rare to non existent if checked occasionally. You can forget many things. Not a cause for concern.

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Re: Bike rack how to tie on / secure bikes

Postby chris_suffolk » 15 Jul 2020, 5:24pm

Cyril Haearn wrote:Or cycles lying on the motorway having fallen off
External cycle racks are just too dodgy and dangerous, straps could break, one might forget to tighten them, they work loose at speed etc etc


Which is why I add a couple of extra straps, over and above what the manufacturer supplies. Unlikely that they will all break / come loose at the same time, and if one does I will have ample time to pull over and stop.

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Re: Bike rack how to tie on / secure bikes

Postby Cyril Haearn » 15 Jul 2020, 5:54pm

chris_suffolk wrote:
Cyril Haearn wrote:Or cycles lying on the motorway having fallen off
External cycle racks are just too dodgy and dangerous, straps could break, one might forget to tighten them, they work loose at speed etc etc


Which is why I add a couple of extra straps, over and above what the manufacturer supplies. Unlikely that they will all break / come loose at the same time, and if one does I will have ample time to pull over and stop.

If only one breaks and flies off it could be curtains for the vehicle behind you, a strap buckle hitting the windscreen at 70 mph
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Re: Bike rack how to tie on / secure bikes

Postby chris_suffolk » 15 Jul 2020, 6:16pm

Cyril Haearn wrote:If only one breaks and flies off it could be curtains for the vehicle behind you, a strap buckle hitting the windscreen at 70 mph


I think that for the strap to break, and come untied from the carrier, and the buckle to break loose from the end (i.e the cam fails) would be infinitesimally small odds. More likely that I throw a stone up with a tyre, which is something that happens and does crack a windscreen, but never any more consquence than that. Screens are designed NOT to fail, even under extreme impact.

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Re: Bike rack how to tie on / secure bikes

Postby Jdsk » 16 Jul 2020, 10:52am

chris_suffolk wrote:Which is why I add a couple of extra straps, over and above what the manufacturer supplies. Unlikely that they will all break / come loose at the same time, and if one does I will have ample time to pull over and stop.

Exactly. Avoid any single point of failure.

And stop and check after a couple of kilometres. It's amazing how often you can snug things up a bit.

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