OBREA GAIN D40 (e-bike)

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Re: OBREA GAIN D40 (e-bike)

Postby willcee » 6 Dec 2018, 7:32pm

Kwackers, ref.. across the world issue.. ime there's no way that USA users will be content at 25kph i asked this very question to Orbea some weeks after Davy my bud got his Gain and didn't get any decent clear answer.. the lock ring has i think 9 magnets on it so one of these may have a speed control or something that tells what revs the wheel is making..will

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Re: OBREA GAIN D40 (e-bike)

Postby willcee » 20 Dec 2018, 3:26pm

My cycling chum has taken another Gain under his wing, traded his 8 month old gray Gain against a new carbon Custom model 11sp 105 with hyd braking.. weight now 26lbs frame geo is different he says but still a medium and he is happy that theres a bit more come and go on the head height which was his issue as well as hating the drab gray matt finish of the previous steed.. pics.. will
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Re: OBREA GAIN D40 (e-bike)

Postby BertYardbrush » 21 Dec 2018, 4:33pm

Hi fellow Gain owners. I have a D40 2019 with 10sp Tiagra. I got it at the end of August and have done 1500 miles.
Living in Derbyshire, it's fairly hilly. I too have a blood condition, CLL, stamina has deteriorated and I need the assistance, particularly when riding with a group.
Up till recently I've turned down the power using the Ebikemotion app to 70%. But as I seem to be lacking oomph in the cold weather, I've just turned it up to 80%.
I like the bike though it's a bit of a firm ride. The Iwoc button is becoming slightly irritating and I would really like to control the power level from a switch on the bars. The motor is ok on most hills but when it gets really steep, over 12%, there is a lot of groaning from the motor no matter what the power level - it does not like it.
If the Ebikemotion app worked properly it would be brilliant. Also I haven't found a way of putting a planned route on it. I just use it to check the battery level and use Garmin for everything else.
As I have less energy, I have been after an auxiliary battery - I ordered one at the same time as the bike, last June. My LBS have been telling me they have problems shipping them over because they are Lithium. I have contacted Orbea as the batteries are not in the current catalogue.
Orbea tell me that they are still waiting for EBM (Ebikemotion) to launch this option and that EBM have a meeting with UK dealers in January.
A bit disheartening, hope its out for touring next year.
Even taking all this into consideration, it's a decent bike.

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Re: OBREA GAIN D40 (e-bike)

Postby peterb » 8 Jan 2019, 11:07am

Finally collected my Orbea Gain D30 (the Grey, 2018 Tiagra version) last July, and have ridden around 600 miles on it since. It has enabled me to ride again, and join the club leisure rides again. I've developed peripheral vascular disease - arteries in the groin and legs becoming narrowed so the blood supply to the muscles is severely restricted - I had reached the point where I was managing just 2-3 miles or so on a 'conventional' bike before calf pain forced me to stop (and no, I'm not diabetic). I'm really appreciating it - it does what it promises - just enough help, but you can still get a workout if you want. It's sometimes hard to stay with the group over the 15.5 mph cut off, (it's roughly twice the weight of my 'best' carbon bike), but the real assistance comes on the hills, places that were completely defeating me (and I can't get off and walk any more - that's excruciatingly painful after a couple of hundred yards too, even on the flat). On an averagely hilly ride I reckon 2% battery to the mile, so a range of 40 - 50 miles, perhaps a little more by judicious 'coasting'. My only gripes are with the app, which has been very unpredictable. I've had more success after trying it with a MOTO E5 - it wouldn't link to my Huawei at all. It does not give an incline reading at all, and I've realised that the (more or less accurate) distance shown when on a ride is registering 10% under when downloaded to 'Activities' and the EBM Dashboard. It was reassuring to read of others users problems with it. The other gripe is with the positioning of the charging socket - seems to me it is potentially vulnerable to damp, and while I've got used to the IWOC a more sophisticated bar mounted control might be better. Overall though, I love it!

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Re: OBREA GAIN D40 (e-bike)

Postby robgul » 8 Jan 2019, 1:15pm

peterb wrote: ^ <SNIP> ^

Yep - I love mine too!

A few comments .... have to say I found the app to be a pointless feature - the battery level/usage stats seem dubious on the inbuilt Gain system . . . better using a Garmin (Edge 1000) that does loads more ... like navigating! ... charging port would have been better in a "sheltered" position ... perhaps back end of the toptube so sort of under the saddle .... and the single IWOC button on the toptube is an outstandingly elegant feature to me (I sell ebikes in myshop and they handlebar dashboards are pretty ugly). Takes all sorts!

Rob

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Re: OBREA GAIN D40 (e-bike)

Postby MikeDee » 8 Feb 2019, 10:57pm

I bought a carbon Gain M30 a few weeks ago. I live in the US so it has the 20 mph cut-off speed, and I've put 275 miles on it thus far. I love it. I haven't used the app except to check the power level at the end of the ride. I just ordered a Topeak bar mount for my iPhone.

Does the bike increase the power output the harder you pedal (i.e . does it have a torque sensor; seems it does)? I tried soft pedaling up a climb in max power mode, and it seemed it wasn't putting out much power. It doesn't have a true cadence sensor (only knows if you're pedaling or not).

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Re: OBREA GAIN D40 (e-bike)

Postby peterb » 9 Feb 2019, 10:23am

MikeDee wrote:I bought a carbon Gain M30 a few weeks ago. I live in the US so it has the 20 mph cut-off speed, and I've put 275 miles on it thus far. I love it. I haven't used the app except to check the power level at the end of the ride. I just ordered a Topeak bar mount for my iPhone.

Does the bike increase the power output the harder you pedal (i.e . does it have a torque sensor; seems it does)? I tried soft pedaling up a climb in max power mode, and it seemed it wasn't putting out much power. It doesn't have a true cadence sensor (only knows if you're pedaling or not).

If you use the app while riding (assuming the app connects successfully and is behaving - it has just been updated) it should show you the % assistance given in the different assistance levels as you increase or decrease your pedalling rate and effort. If you upload your ride to the dashboard it does show a cadence figure but this seems to have little relation to reality - roughly twice the actual figures?

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Re: OBREA GAIN D40 (e-bike)

Postby MikeDee » 10 Feb 2019, 11:49pm

Can anyone recommend a heart rate monitor chest strap that works with an iPhone and the ebikemotion app?