Saw this trike at my local Lidl in Streatham A guy from Brazil , whose English not good ( and whose grasp of the law just as bad ) brought it over from there. Said they would be available here next year. Can you see why he might be wrong?
has a very large lithium battery with something like 720 what ever they are & a brushless motor. Any one id the motor part, looks the biz. says it will go up to 20mph. click to enlarge
Certainly not a pedalec. No pedals, the motor looks like an ungeared direct drive and almost certainly above 250w nominal, and 20mph. Therefore cannot be driven without licence/tax on UK road as a pedalec.
In all aspects it is likely illegal and as stodd has said certainly doesn't come with in mobility laws. The hub is probably a gearless Direct Drive hub so likely 500 or 1000w, the battery will be 720wh but at what voltage. 48v possibly.
e-bikes, e-trikes ,tadpoles whatever you want to call them all come within pedelec reg's, if they fall within all the requirement's of the reg's. If it is sold classed as a mobility scooter/trike then it has to have a max speed of 8mph, certainly with no pedals it isn't an e-trike/pedelecs as it is simply twist and go or push button controlled. Like the scooters being sold by lidl and "word corrected to Halfords" etc, all illegal as all are twist and go and at least reach 20+mph.
hemo wrote:In all aspects it is likely illegal and as stodd has said certainly doesn't come with in mobility laws. The hub is probably a gearless Direct Drive hub so likely 500 or 1000w, the battery will be 720wh but at what voltage. 48v possibly.
yes he did say 48v.
He wasnt an invalid just a normal bloke
He seemed to say had 3 speeds 10,15,20 by twisting the left control presumably continuous?
hemo wrote:In all aspects it is likely illegal and as stodd has said certainly doesn't come with in mobility laws. The hub is probably a gearless Direct Drive hub so likely 500 or 1000w, the battery will be 720wh but at what voltage. 48v possibly.
hemo wrote:In all aspects it is likely illegal and as stodd has said certainly doesn't come with in mobility laws. The hub is probably a gearless Direct Drive hub so likely 500 or 1000w, the battery will be 720wh but at what voltage. 48v possibly.
yes he did say 48v.
15ah battery then.
is that more or less than normal for a pedelec? The box under the seat is very large, I thought there might be a car battery there, but he said was a lithium battery
hemo wrote:In all aspects it is likely illegal and as stodd has said certainly doesn't come with in mobility laws. The hub is probably a gearless Direct Drive hub so likely 500 or 1000w, the battery will be 720wh but at what voltage. 48v possibly.
He wasnt an invalid just a normal bloke
He seemed to say had 3 speeds 10,15,20 by twisting the left control presumably continuous?
Certainly not a Pedelec or legal trike as it uses a 3 spd throttle/speed controller with each level having a set speed. Likely he will not have an issue if it is assumed he is disabled by plod but have an accident or seriously hurt someone at speed then the story might be different. Almost certainly needs type approval to use along with insurance.
is that more or less than normal for a pedelec? The box under the seat is very large, I thought there might be a car battery there, but he said was a lithium battery
15ah is pretty normal for 36v systems on pedelecs, though 48v/15ah tend to be a lot larger and heavier so often 48v is 12ah to 14ah.
) brought it over from there. Said they would be available here next year. Can you see why he might be wrong?