Mick F wrote:Why should you be able to ride it easier and faster than a fit cyclist on a similar - but non-electric - bike?
What does "should" mean? Physics, legislation, some sort of moral hierarchy?
Jonathan
Mick F wrote:Why should you be able to ride it easier and faster than a fit cyclist on a similar - but non-electric - bike?
Mick F wrote:Ok, I'm losing the argument here!
Why should you be able to ride it easier and faster than a fit cyclist on a similar - but non-electric - bike?
Mick F wrote:Why are eBikes speed limited in assistance and not effort limited in assistance?
If they were effort limited, I could see their appeal.
As they are, they take away the joy of climbing hills for me at least.
rfryer wrote:Mick F wrote:Why are eBikes speed limited in assistance and not effort limited in assistance?
If they were effort limited, I could see their appeal.
As they are, they take away the joy of climbing hills for me at least.
It seems to me that eBikes are speed limited for legislative reasons, and because it's an easy concept to understand.
However, most are also power limited, by means of a control that puts then in a mode such as "eco", "tour", "turbo", etc. The fact that most riders round you seem to be favouring the more powerful settings would indicate that your idea of the joy of cycling is out of kilter with that of most eBikers.
Mick F wrote:Ok.
I give in!
reohn2 wrote:The more people on bikes,e-assist or not,means more recognition for cycling generally and with it cycling friendly infrastructure and better treatment of cyclist on UK roads.
Mick F wrote:Ok.
I give in!
Greenbuilder wrote:There is a difference in how ebikes deliver their assistance; Hub motors will get the bike to 15.5mph quite rapidly, the wheel being driven directly. They struggle a bit on steep hills. Mid-drives operate through the gears, like a motorcycle and therefore are more suitable for those hills. Some Mid-drives use torque sensors which respond to the rider putting more effort through the pedals with more power.
The actual torque figures for 250w motors seem to go from 40Nm to over 80Nm, useful to know if you need a bike with plenty of low down 'grunt' for lugging heavy panniers or a trailer
Bonzo Banana wrote:Also Suntour do a hub motor system with a torque sensor so senses rider power just like most mid-drive motors.
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but sadly they are the most complicated motors too which means more reliability and service issues than hub motors generally.