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I don't know how this will evolve. But they're rather similar to car starter motors and alternators which can surprisingly often be repaired locally.
Yes. I haven't checked, but I suspect that the average speed for ebikes as actually ridden is lower than the average speed for non-electric bikes. I certainly ride our ebike slower than I rode my regular bike 30 years ago.Grumpy-Grandad wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 11:57am I ride a Carrera Crossfuse ebike ....... and I'm regularly passed by ordinary bikes ..... maybe its just that I'm old, overweight and slow ..... or that I'm not really bothered about racing around.
I'm just happy that having an ebike has meant I can get out and ride ...... which I haven't done for many many years
That’s a wonderful positive of e-bikes - enabling people to ride again or prolonging their cycling hobby.Grumpy-Grandad wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 11:57am I ride a Carrera Crossfuse ebike ....... and I'm regularly passed by ordinary bikes ..... maybe its just that I'm old, overweight and slow ..... or that I'm not really bothered about racing around.
I'm just happy that having an ebike has meant I can get out and ride ...... which I haven't done for many many years
Depends on how fit the the 'electrical rider' is, and the strength of their leg muscles. When I first got my Orbea Gain it was all too easy to beat (most) of the other club leisure group members to the top of the hill - as long as it was not too long and steep - but I soon realised doing so was a quick route to becoming very unpopular, so I learnt to moderate my riding so as to stay one or two places back. On the descents the weight of the bike pushes up the speed, but on the flat that e-bike weight can be a big disadvantage as most club rides will drift up over 15mph or so and then it's hard work to stay with the group, without assistance. Drafting helps of course, and my average speed with the group would always be higher than when cycling alone. Now my average speed on the e-bike is around 12 - 13 mph, considerably faster than anything I can manage on my other bikes, even the carbon one, as the strength of my leg muscles has been severely compromised by arterial problems - if it weren't for this PVD I would still be riding unassisted, so I'll always be thankful that e-road bikes were becoming available just at the time I needed help to carry on riding.My point here, is that a mechanical rider in company with an electrical rider, is at a disadvantage in hilly rides.
Flat and downhill, the issue disappears.
Oldhohnw wasn’t referring to you at all, he meant another notorious poster.Mick F wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 4:26pm I'm not being disparaging in the slightest.
If you live in a hilly area and need an Ebike to actually ride .................. and I need to broach the subject with a certain Mrs Mick F ........................... it can only be a good idea. It could be they only way to get out and ride.
Depends on where you start from and who the normal cyclist is. I was doing quite well yesterday on a slight gradient keeping up about 12mph in Eco (+40% assist on the Bosch), instead of the 8/9 I would have been doing on my unassisted bike and only then with some discomfort. I have cardiomyopathy, soon run out of puff and have to keep my heart rate down to about 115. A roadie went by at around 20 I'd guess. With assistance only up to 15.5mph I couldn't have caught him even if I had been using 'Turbo' mode.
Not Mick - I find him pragmatic - nor even the other notorious poster! Or anyone in particular. A general comment, including away from these pages.markjohnobrien wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 4:30pmOldhohnw wasn’t referring to you at all, he meant another notorious poster.Mick F wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 4:26pm I'm not being disparaging in the slightest.
If you live in a hilly area and need an Ebike to actually ride .................. and I need to broach the subject with a certain Mrs Mick F ........................... it can only be a good idea. It could be they only way to get out and ride.
I just ignore moaners and complainers ..... as far as I am concerned having an bike enables me to get out in the fresh air and ride.Oldjohnw wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 2:17pm It is lovely to hear these life affirming experiences from people who need to use ebikes. Whilst I will do what I need to do, it can be quite dispiriting to constantly hear comment which seem intended to make you feel some sort of pariah. I have, on these very pages, been called the spawn of the devil. An unmoderated comment.
I must say I can't recall any 'moaners and complainers' in the club group I rode with. There was one other rider in the group with an e-road bike - a Ribble CGR - he has MS, and bought his bike so as to be able to continue riding reasonable distances. We may have had a little 'banter' initially (and gave as good as we got), but I think our use of e-bikes was completely accepted.Grumpy-Grandad wrote: ↑22 Apr 2021, 1:38pm I just ignore moaners and complainers ..... as far as I am concerned having an bike enables me to get out in the fresh air and ride.
Its not only good for my physical health but also my mental health.
So .... to the moaners I say carry on moaning, its your blood pressure you're raising not mine
Thank you!