16 year-old girl cycling from Newton Abbot to COP26

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16 year-old girl cycling from Newton Abbot to COP26

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Here's an uplifting article about a youngster intending to cycle over 500 miles to COP26.

https://httpspeoplepeddlepower.wordpres ... apRjR1d4OY
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Have read the linked website. Some questions. What is the COVID risk assessment for this group activity ? ( Check the Scot Gov website for the current law). Do they already have Glaswegean accomodation fixed up ? How are they getting home again ? Or will they become permenant residents ?
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Great initiative and piece of activism. I do want to find out more about the cargo bikes support team, how that logistic works and how much CO2 emission e-bikes create.

The downside is that the journey may also highlight the inconveniences of cycling long distances. Although imagine having dedicated cycleways between cities across the UK. Never going to happen but one can dream :roll:
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Paradiddle wrote: 13 Oct 2021, 11:49am Great initiative and piece of activism. I do want to find out more about the cargo bikes support team, how that logistic works and how much CO2 emission e-bikes create.
There was a report quotied recently on another cycling forum: a statndard (i.e. not "cargo") eBike, if charged from green electricity, has a slightly lower CO2 footprint than a regular bike. But the manufacturing hit is very large, so you have to rack up a lot of miles to get ahead!

(if you use coal-based electrons, the CO2 numbers will be awful, sadly).

I admit I was surprised by this. I wasn't surprised that all kinds of bikes are a lot less damaging than any car.
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Paradiddle wrote: 13 Oct 2021, 11:49am The downside is that the journey may also highlight the inconveniences of cycling long distances. Although imagine having dedicated cycleways between cities across the UK. Never going to happen but one can dream :roll:
Why? Never say never! Already some cities are connected by cycleways, even in the backwards UK, such as Bristol and Bath, Birmingham and Wolverhampton, Edinburgh and Glasgow and a few cheats like London and Westminster and Newcastle and Gateshead. With not much work, Leeds and Bradford, Gateshead and Durham and Liverpool and Manchester could be connected too. Many of those are towpaths or rail trails, which I guess shows where the long-distance easier wins are.
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Tinnishill wrote: 13 Oct 2021, 11:02am Have read the linked website. Some questions. What is the COVID risk assessment for this group activity ? ( Check the Scot Gov website for the current law). Do they already have Glaswegean accomodation fixed up ? How are they getting home again ? Or will they become permenant residents ?
What a defeatist respose! :cry:
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by De Sisti » 14 Oct 2021, 8:21am
Tinnishill wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 12:02pm Have read the linked website. Some questions. What is the COVID risk assessment for this group activity ? ( Check the Scot Gov website for the current law). Do they already have Glaswegean accomodation fixed up ? How are they getting home again ? Or will they become permenant residents ?
What a defeatist respose!
"Defeatist", that's a laugh. Fifty years, I have been campaigning.

I will try saying the same thing again, but slower and with more detail.

When you cross the Border heading north you will be entering a new legal jurisdiction. Have the good grace to try to find out what the law is. I was on the Border yesterday, where the door of the first baker's shop that cyclists stop at on one route carries a big sign reading "You are in Scotland, wear a mask!" The workers in that shop are frightened, they have seen three recent Covid deaths in their village.

The accommodation crisis in Glasgow is real. Student tenants are being decanted to allow for short term Cop26 profiteering by their landlords. A Government minister made an appeal two days ago for volunteers to take in travelers; regardless of Covid risk. There is a growing fear among the local population that we are going to have an international super-spreader event followed by a two month lockdown. Anyone who does not already have accommodation organised is going to have trouble. It is irresponsible to lead uninformed people into that situation.

As for the carbon credentials of those who seek personal publicity by walking/cycling/hopping/dancing/pogo-sticking from Leafy-middle-class-England-land to Glasgow for their late Autumn holiday, I have now read an awful lot of blogs and press releases claiming the moral high ground for their journey north of The Wall, but none that I have seen describe their plan for the return leg. A self flagellating outward leg with a motorised trip back is an invite for observers to point and laugh.

We have had this shindig imposed on us by the English government. Try having a thought for the concerns of your hosts. You will be welcomed, but give people some space.
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mattheus wrote: 13 Oct 2021, 1:07pm There was a report quotied recently on another cycling forum: a statndard (i.e. not "cargo") eBike, if charged from green electricity, has a slightly lower CO2 footprint than a regular bike. But the manufacturing hit is very large, so you have to rack up a lot of miles to get ahead!

(if you use coal-based electrons, the CO2 numbers will be awful, sadly).

I admit I was surprised by this. I wasn't surprised that all kinds of bikes are a lot less damaging than any car.
Yes I guessed the same with the use of green electricity. Same issue with electric cars really. They're only as green as the power source and you need to take into account the carbon footprint from the manufacturing and transport processes. GCN recently did a video exploring if you can replace cars with cargo bikes. It really depends on your situation and needs but they look very capable.

As for the support team of this trip, I wonder how they make sure the cargo bikes are charged for all legs of the trip. Maybe removable batteries that can be charged from regular outlets?
mjr wrote: 13 Oct 2021, 5:57pm Why? Never say never! Already some cities are connected by cycleways, even in the backwards UK, such as Bristol and Bath, Birmingham and Wolverhampton, Edinburgh and Glasgow and a few cheats like London and Westminster and Newcastle and Gateshead. With not much work, Leeds and Bradford, Gateshead and Durham and Liverpool and Manchester could be connected too. Many of those are towpaths or rail trails, which I guess shows where the long-distance easier wins are.
You're right. I was being overly pessimistic. I should really go and try out some of these cycleways. Seen a few videos and blogs about the Bristol and Bath one.

Although as a Londoner I'm hopeful one day we'll have dedicated cycleways between London and the commuter towns (e.g. Guildford, St. Albans), or even Cambridge and Brighton.
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De Sisti wrote: 13 Oct 2021, 10:08am Here's an uplifting article about a youngster intending to cycle over 500 miles to COP26.

https://httpspeoplepeddlepower.wordpres ... apRjR1d4OY
Thanks for posting this. :D
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